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Subject: Updated WSDL generation - a.k.a. web service binding defaults
Based on the minutes of the meeting of 2008-05-29, I've made a few
edits. Since I was MIA for the meeting, my understanding of the
discussion might be somewhat misguided. Additions shown with
underscore, deletions shown with strike-through. I see one key question worth floating to the top: Suppose someone puts <binding.ws/> on a service with no further qualifications. Per default binding rules in the new proposal, this will enable an endpoint that supports SOAP 1.1 over HTTP. Must this be the only WSDL 1,1 port for the binding, or could an implementation choose to simultaneously implement a SOAP 1.2 binding, and if it implements an additional binding, must it be at the same endpoint, or can it be at a different endpoint? Put differently, if an SCA end-user wants to support both SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 at the same HTTP URL:
Scribe: Simon H. look through the proposal, appendix B Scribe: Set of 5 rules, around def of the name space Scribe: Comments on the proposal Scribe: Anish: is the description an example? Me: Assuming this is still referring to Appendix B, yes - certainly not normative. Scribe: Simon H: the wording suggests its a recommended approach Me: I added text indicating that appendix B is non-normative. Scribe: Simon N: Should parts be included Me: ??? Scribe: Anish: Importing PortType, the imported doc will have reference to message and schema, its importing recursively, if its inlined, correct import has to be present Scribe: No other comments, document had not yet been reviewed by all Scribe: Simon N: not consistent normative language in the proposal Me: Specifics here would help me out. Scribe: Bryan: Not clear whether its WSDL 1.1 or 2.0, should be explicit Me: Which section? Scribe: Bryan, comment for section 4.2 (Default Binding) Scribe: Simon N: should we have different versions of the section ? Me: Two versions to cover what? SOAP 1.1 vs SOAP 1.2 or WSDL 1.1 vs. WSDL 2.0? Or something else. I don't see the need, so I think I need clarification. Scribe: Mentions SOAP 1.2 Scribe: Section or each item is compared against policy ? Scribe: Ambiguous as to it should be applied whole as opposed to each item separately Me: My take is that policy is explicit orthogonal to the default binding. That's why I put in the sentence "In the event that transport details are not determined elsewhere...". Elsewhere could include binding details, policy choices, or vendor extensions. Scribe: In 4.2.1, if there is no policy, RT may support 1.1 or 1.2, but then second bullet says 1.1 Scribe: Mike E: proposal is not consistent Scribe: We need author to explain the intentions to help with wording Scribe: Go back to Eric for clarification Me: I think I understand the concern here, but I'm not sure. The text "the following configuration SHOULD be used" is wonderfully vague. My intent here was to allow for the possibility that the WSDL generator could publish multiple WSDL 1.1 "ports" as a consequence of WSDL generation related to a single binding.ws element. A consequence of this would be a service that supports both SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 form invocations at the same endpoint. This results in the apparently contradictory statements that SOAP 1.1 should be used (bullet 2), but then that in the case of SOAP 1.2, how to carry the "action" parameter (bullet 7). This relates to the question I put at the top of this email. Scribe: Last bullet of 4.2 Scribe: should not be dependent on any policy affecting how you generate WSDL Scribe: Anish: 4.2, except last bullet should be mandatory Scribe: Should --> Must Me: I don't see the value of putting a "MUST" inside of a section for which the entire contents is a "should." Scribe: If you don't specify anything, the WS binding is described in 4.2 Scribe: Simon H: if you don't specify anything, you are guaranteed interoperability, once you start specifying things, you don't have interop Scribe: Anish: Autogeneration of WSDL should be supported, rules to generate WSDL Me: ??? I don't think I understand Anish's comment. Once we've fully specified what the SOAP messages look like, why do we need to spell out how the WSDL gets generated? What's the use case where the SCA bindings TC needs to spell this out? Scribe: Simon N: SOAP version spelling Scribe: Square bracket with two versions Me: details? 4 Transport BindingThe binding.ws element provides numerous ways to specify exactly how messages ought to be transmitted from or to the reference or service. Those ways include references to WSDL binding elements from the @wsdlElement attribute, policy intents, and even vendor extensions within the binding.ws element. However, all of those ways to indicate how messages get carried happen to be optional. This section describes the defaults that ought be used if the specific transport details are not otherwise specified. 4.1 IntentsSo as to narrow the range of choices for how messages are carried, the following policy intents affect the transport binding.
4.2 Default BindingIn the event that the transport details are not
determined elsewhere, a conforming implementation SHOULD enable the
following configuration
4.2.1 SOAP versionsWhere no specific version of SOAP has been
dictated, an SCA runtime might support both version 1.1 and version
1.2. 4.3 WSDL portType or interfaceAn SCA service has a single interface description.
For the Web Services binding, this interface description MUST be
converted into one or both of a WSDL 1.1 portType or a WSDL 2.0
interface. B. Appendix - WSDL GenerationDue to the number of factors that determine how a
WSDL might be generated, including compatibility with existing WSDL
uses, precise details cannot be specified. For example, policy
implementation decisions can affect the way WSDL might be generated.
For reference, and
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