Re: [sca-bindings] Re: CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs readyfor publication

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

I'm not sure I understand.
Why would OASIS not want to send 3XX redirect status codes when things 
change? It is a pretty good way to manage changes on the Web.
Perhaps you (or someone else) can provide us with an insight into the 
rationale for disallowing redirects.

Thanks.

-Anish
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Mary McRae wrote:
> Hi Anish,
> 
>   It has nothing to do with Kavi; these files are in a separate web 
> space. It's an IT decision / access / management issue.
> 
> Mary
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> On May 28, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Anish Karmarkar wrote:
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>> Mary McRae wrote:
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>  I'm sorry - it looks like that never made it into my queue. My 
>>> apologies!
>>>  We can't change the name of the latest version once established - 
>>> that breaks the reasoning behind them. We never edit files once 
>>> they've been uploaded, and we have no idea how many people may have 
>>> downloaded the file and will expect the link to work going forward. 
>>> We also don't support redirects.
>>
>> Why not?
>> Is that a limitation of KAVI or is it a OASIS policy.
>> Not supporting redirects on the Web seems very strange to me.
>>
>> -Anish
>> -- 
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>>>  It's okay that the current filename and the latest version filename 
>>> are slightly different from my perspective; in all likelihood people 
>>> are clicking on the link and not paying too much attention to the 
>>> filename. The new filename doesn't seem to be that different from the 
>>> old one that should someone have downloaded the file, they would be 
>>> misled by the naming.
>>>  Let me know if you want me to edit the files or if you will provide 
>>> updated copies for uploading.
>>> Regards,
>>> Mary
>>> Mary P McRae
>>> Director, Standards Development
>>> Technical Committee Administrator
>>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
>>> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> 
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>>> Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open.
>>> On May 22, 2009, at 5:17 AM, Simon Holdsworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mary,
>>>>
>>>> I sent this note some time ago, but did not get a response, and I 
>>>> can't see any of the updated versions available on the OASIS site.
>>>>
>>>> I'd appreciate it if you could let me know when these updated 
>>>> versions of the specifications will be published.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Simon
>>>>
>>>> Simon Holdsworth
>>>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC 
>>>> Chair
>>>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
>>>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
>>>> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com 
>>>> <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>
>>>> ----- Forwarded by Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM on 22/05/2009 10:16 -----
>>>> *Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM*
>>>>
>>>> 02/03/2009 11:27
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>>>>     <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>>
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>>>> Subject
>>>>     CD02 packages for SCA Bindings specs ready for publication
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Mary,
>>>>
>>>> I have prepared the following packages for publication containing 
>>>> the CD02 versions of the SCA bindings specs, and would appreciate it 
>>>> if you could publish them on the OASIS website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31480/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec-cd02.zip 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31479/sca-binding-jms-1.1-spec-cd02.zip 
>>>>
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>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bindings/download.php/31478/sca-binding-jca-1.1-spec-cd02.zip 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only specific note I have is that we changed the naming of these 
>>>> documents, so that the latest link on the old cd01 pages, which 
>>>> currently point to (for example):
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> now need to point to:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-binding-ws-1.1-spec.html <http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-spec.html> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that can be done by redirecting the 3 URLs or modifying the 
>>>> 3 cd01 HTML pages for WS, JMS and JCA bindings.
>>>>
>>>> The cd02 packages all point to this latest URL.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Simopn
>>>>
>>>> Simon Holdsworth
>>>> STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC 
>>>> Chair
>>>> MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK
>>>> Tel +44-1962-815059 (Internal 245059) Fax +44-1962-816898
>>>> Internet - Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com 
>>>> <mailto:Simon_Holdsworth@uk.ibm.com>
>>>>
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