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Subject: Formated minutes of 2008-02-14 telcon


attached.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2008-02-14

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

14 FEB 2008

Attendees

Present
: Charlton Barreto
: Michael Rowley
: Jacques Durand
: Mike Edwards
: Dieter Koenig
: Khanderao Kand
: Anish Karmarkar
: Ashok Malhotra
: Sanjay Patil
: Najeeb Andrabi
: Danny van der Rijn
: Ivana Trickovic
: Simon Moser
Chair
Anish Karmarkar and Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Najeeb Andrabi
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200802/msg00008.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of feb 7 2008 meeting minutes
[3]  f2f
[4]  issue 2
[5]  issue 1
[6]  issue 17
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Najeeb Andrabi

agenda bashing

Sanjay:
Agend item for lack of issues for F2F meeting.
Sanjay:
Lack of issues but conformance test will be the area that we might consider working on during F2F.
<anish>
new agenda added
 
Action item 21 to remain pending.
<anish>
action item 24 to remain pending

Approval of feb 7 2008 meeting minutes

 
Meetings minutes approved unanimously

f2f

Sanjay:
Leave the F2F open and decide on meeting in March.
Mike Edwards:
Lot of people would be at they SCA symposium so it might make sense to hold the F2F meeting.
 
the
Sanjay:
Possibility of cancellation of F2F meeting
Danny V:
F2F discussion should move to e-mail.
<Mike Edwards>
If you plan a F2F meeting on some other date, I might not make it
<charlton>
I think it makes sense to see how many people will be at the F2F meeting. It isn't a trivial thing to arrange meetings at the F2F.
 
Issue discussion

issue 2

<anish>
 
Issue 2 was resolved.
Anish:
recommendation/best practice that the side file be colocated with
the BPEL file, if possible.
Michael Rowley:
keep the spec as it is.

issue 1

<anish>
 
Issue #1 discussion
<anish>
previous motion and ammendment --
<anish>
main motion: leave chapter 4 as-is and mark it as non-normative, keep
chapter 4 in sync with the rest of the spec
amendment: If the work of keeping chapter 4 in sync is too onerous then
we remove chapter 4 (support for BPEL 1.1)
Dieter:
Decision to make the text non-normative was based on BPEL 1.1 specification on being a standard.
 
non-standard.
Michael Rowley:
Currently the chapter 4 is in sync. so maintaining it currently is not an issue.
Michael Rowley:
we can address maintainability issue later.
Dieter:
Motion was primarily to change the BPEL 1.1 text to non-normative.
Danny V:
moves to make the chapter 4 non-normative.
 
Dieter seconds.
 
Charlton B: BPEL 1.1. was not submitted to standards body.
<Dieter Koenig>
No - the WS-BPEL TC started with 1.1 and created 2.0
Deiter:
BPEL 1.1 was submitted to standards body but was not output of the standards body.
Ivana:
There is not bar to submitting to W3C note or member submission.
Sanjay:
There are IP implications as well
Resolution: issue 1 is resolved by the above motion (chapter 4 to be marked non-normative)

issue 17

 
issue 17 discussion
<charlton>
(Dieter, what I meant was that it was not the output - thanks for the clarification)
<anish>
Dieter:
Open this issue and resolve it in someway.
Michael Rowley:
issue is already open.
<Dieter Koenig>
(sorry - missed that somehow )
<Mike Edwards>
this is fraught with danger
<Mike Edwards>
hmm
<Mike Edwards>
very odd
Sanjay:
Main issues is whether the component type file can override the implementation.
<Mike Edwards>
I agree with Michael Rowley
Michael Rowley:
Issue 17 is an assembly issue.
Anish:
We can be proactive and suggest a solution.
<anish>
adjourned

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2008-02-14 at 09:32:39 GMT-8


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