Formated minutes of 2009-03-05 telcon

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-03-05

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

05 MAR 2009

Attendees

Present

Michael Rowley, (Active Endpoints, Inc.)

David Booz, (IBM)

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Dieter Koenig, (IBM)

Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)

Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Anish Karmarkar

Scribe

Dave Booz

Agenda:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00038.html

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Contents

Topics

[1]  agenda bashing

[2]  approval of minutes

[3]  review of AIs

[4]  TC schedule

[5]  New Issues

[6]  Plan for PRD

[7]  straggler role

[8]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

New:

2009-03-05-1: Dieter to get the schema files fixed to remove element "interface.partnerLinkType" and complexType "BPELPartnerLinkType"

2009-03-05-2: Anish to notify Assembly-TC that BPEL TC is updating SCA name space with incompatible change

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Resolutions

• 2009-03-05-1: Minutes of Feb 26, 2009 minutes as posted at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00033.html approved.
  
• 2009-03-05-2: No change to SCA BPEL namespace for CD02/PRD
• 2009-03-05-3: change Ack section in CD01 rev16 document to include two names from http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00026.html
• 2009-03-05-4: motion passes w/o objection
• 2009-03-05-5: Accept cd01-rev16 + change in ack section (as above) + change in file name for schema (as above)+ updating the schema file to remove partnerlintype (as above from Diter) + update to new NS from assembly + update assembly/policy ref as CD 02
• 2009-03-05-6: CD02 is the 1st PRD
• 2009-03-05-7: 1st PR period will be 60 days

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Minutes

Scribe: Dave Booz

<Sanjay>

Agenda
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Feb 26, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00033.html
5. Action Items review
MikeR to send out rev16 containing all the resolutions from 2009-02-26 call folded in.
DONE
6. SCA BPEL schedule reminder
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200901/msg00016.html
and
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200901/msg00018.html
Specs -
PR draft ready: March 5th
PR vote: March 12th
Testing -
Test Assertions complete 27/02/2009
TestCases complete 27/03/2009
Public review draft ready 17/04/2009
1st Public review complete 26/06/2009
7. Opening/discussion/resolution of new issues
8. Plan for PRD
8a) Do we need to change the namespaces that we use:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca-bpel/200801
Our NS change policy is to make a change only between CDs iff there is a backward incompatible change (see http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712)
8b) What should be in the PR package?
i) CD02/PRD with no change mark: html, pdf and word
ii) CD02/PRD with change marks from CD01: do we need all three formats or pdf is sufficient?
iii) Two schema files
iv) RDDL document for the 'sca-bpel' namespace
8c) Plan from the editors to provide us the PRD package
8d) Who are the external stakeholders that OASIS should inform as part of the PR process?
8e) PR duration?
Suggestion: minimum is 60 days, stick with the minimum (same as SCA Policy)
8f) How to deal with issues raised during the PR period either by TC members or non-TC members?
Per the process, the TC must acknowledge the receipt of each comment, track the comments received, and publish to its primary e-mail list the disposition of each comment at the end of the review period.
Suggestion: we follow SCA Policy TC's lead. Which is to create a new component/subcomponent in JIRA for PR comments. All new issues raised, after we agree on the PRD, either by non-members or members (on the TC list or the PR feedback list) be logged as new issues in the new component/subcomponent.

8g) We'll have to coordinate with the Assembly TC for appropriate RDDL updates for the 'sca' namespace.
9. Test assertion doc and testing
1st draft: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00027.html
Plan/volunteers to finish the assertions?
10. AOB

agenda bashing

 

AK: PRD vote scheduled for next week. Changes are minimal to date. Could we vote for PRD today?

 

some concensus that today would be possible

 

8.a updated to include item for editorial changes to Ack section and Asm and Policy spec doc references

 

between 8.a and 8.b will be the PRD vote

 

DK: Mike has asked for schema updates from this TC

 

8.a updated to also include Mike Es question on updated schemas

 

agenda approved as modified above

approval of minutes

 

no objections to approval of minutes

Resolution: Minutes of Feb 26, 2009 minutes as posted at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00033.html approved.

review of AIs

 

no updates to AIs other than what is already noted in agenda

TC schedule

 

SP: goes over agenda points in this topic

<Martin C>

what/where is the latest reveision of the sepc

 

no discussion on this topic

New Issues

 

none to discuss

Plan for PRD

 

8a) discussion on changes to namespace

 

AK:Any backward incompatible changes to SCA BPEL namespace?

 

AK:Does Assembly need to change the main SCA namespace?

<Dieter Koenig>

Dropped from common SCA namespace "http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712":
<!-- SCA-BPEL PartnerLinkType Interface -->
<element name="interface.partnerLinkType"
type="sca:BPELPartnerLinkType" substitutionGroup="sca:interface" />
<complexType name="BPELPartnerLinkType">
<complexContent>
<extension base="sca:Interface">
<sequence>
<any namespace="##other" processContents="lax"
minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />
</sequence>
<attribute name="type" type="QName" use="required" />
<attribute name="serviceRole" type="NCName" use="optional" />
<anyAttribute namespace="##any" processContents="lax" />
</extension>
</complexContent>
</complexType>

 

decision - there is no need to change the SCA BPEL namespace

Resolution: No change to SCA BPEL namespace for CD02/PRD

 

BPEL TC needs to notify namespace assembly that there is an incompatible change to the namespace as noted by DK above

<Mike Edwards>

I will join the call in about 10 mins

 

AK: policy would need to be updated (they are already PRD)

 

DB: Policy TC would have to make the decision to reflect this update in the CD, I see no problems with Policy accepting this

 

MC: we're voting on a CD here - and until BPEL TC accepts this incompatible change, ASM and Policy are ok

 

AK: would be good to have spec sync'd if possible...bindings and Java may also change the main namespace

 

SP: agree

 

MC: will assembly be making breaking changes when they accept the next CD?

 

DB: there are several items that have caused incompat changes to assembly namespace

 

MC: if we vote to accept CD today, then we need to communicate to assembly about the incompat change coming from this TC

<Martin C>

can we have a link to the latest revision please

<Mike Edwards>

Mike E is on now

 

SP: discussing editorial items to update the spec

 

AK: has a few in one email

<Dieter Koenig>

Latest XML Schema artifacts:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/28296/sca-bpel-extensions-1.1-cd01.xsd
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/28295/sca-bpel-1.1-cd01.xsd

<anish>

ack section change: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00026.html

<anish>

issues that we'll close for CD02: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00037.html

<anish>

cd02 candidate: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/31438/sca-bpel-1.1-spec-cd-01-rev16.doc

<Dieter Koenig>

XML Schema to-do items:
(1) Remove element "interface.partnerLinkType" and complexType "BPELPartnerLinkType" from sca-bpel-1.1-cd01.xsd
(2) Copy the contents back into the SCA-BPEL 1.1 spec document published for PR

 

AK: document above does not contain ACK and schema changes, and doesn't contain Asm and Policy document references

 

motion: m:Anish K s:Kandero K "change Ack section to include two names from http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00026.html"

 

motion: m:Anish K s:Kandero K "change Ack section in CD01 rev16 document to include two names from http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00026.html"

 

motion passes w/o

Resolution: change Ack section in CD01 rev16 document to include two names from http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00026.html

 

ME: suggest we handle the schema changes by putting an AI on the editors

 

ME: schema in cd01 rev16 is correct...just need to update the schema files

Action: Dieter to get the schema files fixed to remove element "interface.partnerLinkType" and complexType "BPELPartnerLinkType"

 

ME: schema file name for BPEL is not correct

<Mike Edwards>

sca-implementation-cpp-1.1-cd02.xsd

 

ME: the current file name is sca-bpel-1.1-cd01.xsd

<anish>

http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712

 

AK: RDDL document has a different name for BPEL

<Mike Edwards>

So I think the name should be like:

 

AK: Looks like it follows the pattern that cpp is using

<Martin C>

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-assembly/sca-1.1-cd01.xsd

 

MC: Asm schema doesn't include the BPEL schema

<Mike Edwards>

sca-implementation-bpel-1.1-cd02.xsd is what I think it should be
anish time check 15 minutes
Dave Booz wow, time flies today
anish tempted to make a CD02 motion

 

seems to be concensus to use sca-implementation-bpel-1.1-cd02.xsd

 

no objections to using that name

<Martin C>

assuming we vote it in

<anish>

cd01-rev16 + change in ack section + change in file name for schema + updating the schema file to remove partnerlintype + update to new NS from assembly + update assembly/policy ref to use PRD

<Dieter Koenig>

New XML Schema file names:
sca-implementation-bpel-1.1-cd02.xsd
sca-bpel-extensions-1.1-cd02.xsd

<Martin C>

copy resulting schemas back into appendix in dic

 

motion: m:Anish K s: "Accept cd01-rev16 + change in ack section + change in file name for schema + updating the schema file to remove partnerlintype + update to new NS from assembly + update assembly/policy ref as CD 02"

 

motion: m:Anish K s: martin C "Accept cd01-rev16 + change in ack section (as above) + change in file name for schema (as above)+ updating the schema file to remove partnerlintype (as above from Diter) + update to new NS from assembly + update assembly/policy ref as CD 02"

<anish>

issues that we'll close for CD02: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00037.html

Resolution: motion passes w/o objection

Resolution: Accept cd01-rev16 + change in ack section (as above) + change in file name for schema (as above)+ updating the schema file to remove partnerlintype (as above from Diter) + update to new NS from assembly + update assembly/policy ref as CD 02

 

inserts applause here

<Mike Edwards>

Applause

 

motion: m:Anish K s:Martin C "Make CD02 as the first public review draft"

 

motion passes w/o objection

Resolution: CD02 is the 1st PRD

 

MC: we should hold off asking TC-Admin to start PR until after Asm and Policy go PR

 

motion: m: Martin C s:Mike E "Public review period will be 60 days"

 

motion passes w/o objection

Resolution: 1st PR period will be 60 days

 

SP: 8b) discussion

 

SP: 8c) discussion

 

DK: When will we get the namespace from assembly?

Action: Anish to notify Assembly-TC that BPEL TC is updating SCA name space with incompatible change

 

MC: let's wait on producing the package until after Assembly TC meeting next week

straggler role

 

none

AOB

 

none

 

meeting adjourned

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