Formatted minutes of 2009-05-07 telcon

Minutes

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1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Apr 30, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00001.html
5. Action Items review
#0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language
PENDING
#0066 Anish - open a new issue to make SBPEL2019 as a non-normative statement since it is redundant to SBPEL2020-2022
DONE
#0067 Anish - Submit a new issue regarding the use of 'MAY' by SBPEL 2022 and the recursivity of the statement
DONE
#0068 Editors - fix the typo "orginalName" in the section 2.3
#0069 Khanderao - SBL-TA-3001: Prerequisite should be about "two or more variable declarations
#0070 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2020: replace the Prerequisite statements a) and b) by the combined statement - "Multiple partner links (defined in different scopes) share the same name".
#0071 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2022: Include 'prerequisite of SBL-TA-2020' as additional prerequisite
#0072 Khaderao - SBL-TA-3002 Update prerequisites a) and c) on the lines of: a) a variable declaration has an sca-bpel property attribute b) a value is provided for the property via component configuration
6. New Issues
a. Issue 40 SBPEL2019 is redundant
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-40
b. Issue 41 SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
7. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38
Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00064.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00070.html
b) Issue 39 References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes "myRole" and "partnerRole"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00003.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00004.html
8. Test assertion doc
Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html
Review TAs added by Khanderao starting at SBL-TA-3003
Review TAs added by Sanjay starting at SBL-TA-SP04
9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases
10. AOB

Scribe: Danny van der Rijn

Approval of minutes

Resolution: minute of 2009-04-30 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00001.html approved unanimously

AI Review

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62 is pending; 66,67 done; 68 - 72 pending

New Issue, Issue 40

SBPEL 2019 is redundant

Motion: open issue 40 (m: Dieter, s: Najeeb)

Resolution: issue 40 open

Motion: To resolve issue 40 as proposed in mail/jira. (m: Dieter, Khanderao)

Resolution: motion carries without objection, issue 40 is resolved with resolution in JIRA

New Issue, Issue 41 - SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively

Motion: To open issue 41 (m: Dieter, s: Danny)

Resolution: Issue 41 is opened with unanimously

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Danny's proposal -- "If any "_originalName_i" (where N is the number of partnerLinks of name 'originalName', 1 <= i <= N) is already the name of a partner link declaration in the process definition, then the smallest number of additional underscore characters MUST be added at the beginning of all originalNames, to avoid a collision."

Danny:

What exactly are we trying to accomplish?

Anish:

originalName corresponds to name across scopes that collide. N such collisions. Trying to avoid possibility that _originalName_i is also a name of another partnerLink.

Danny:

across what scope do we add underscores? originalName collision, or the entire process

anish:

agreement that we need to change MAY to MUST. need more work on what we're trying to do.

najeeb:

do we need to make it a MUST. Do we need to define it in a particular way?

anish:

problem I see with that is that the names are important when you configure component in composite.

danny:

componentType is inferred from BPEL file each time, not generated and saved

anish:

what direction do we want to take? Do we want to fix this to ensure deterministic componentType across all runtimes, or punt it as an edge case?

mikeE:

if you're going to allow it to be an edge case, what would that say to a developer?

Action: Danny to further the issue discussion in email

test assertions

SBL-TA-3003

Action: Khanderao change the target of 3003 to CT

SBL-TA-3004

anish:

I don't see why this is a MAY

Action: Najeeb to raise new issue about requirement of multiplicity

SBL-TA-3005

mikeE:

the target is too broad. should be relevant to the predicate.

Action: Khanderao to refine the target for 3005

SBL-TA-3006

SBL-TA-3007

mikeE:

components don't have componentType - implementations do

anish:

exists throughout doc.

anish:

"componentType of the BPEL process" - should be changed throughout

adjourned

Action: anish to fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses <implementation.bpel>" with "CT of the BPEL process"

<anish>

Stopped at 3007, next time we start with 3008

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

07 MAY 2009

Attendees

Contents

Action Items

Resolutions

Minutes

Approval of minutes

AI Review

New Issue, Issue 40

New Issue, Issue 41 - SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively

test assertions

SBL-TA-3003

SBL-TA-3004

SBL-TA-3005

SBL-TA-3006

SBL-TA-3007

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