Formatted minutes of 2009-05-14 telcon

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-05-14

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

14 MAY 2009

Attendees

Present

Michael Rowley, (Active Endpoints, Inc.)

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Dieter Koenig, (IBM)

Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)

Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)

Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)

Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chair

Sanjay Patil

Scribe

Ashok Malhotra

Agenda:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/event.php?event_id=19836

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Approval of May 7, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00016.html

[2]  Action Items review

[3]  New Issues

[4]  Issue 38

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

New:

2009-05-14-1: Danny to provide a proposal for issue 42

2009-05-14-2: MR to propose alternate algorithm for issue 41

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Resolutions

• 2009-05-14-1: Minutes of 2009-05-07 posted at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00016.html approved
• 2009-05-14-2: issue 42 opened
• 2009-05-14-3: issue 38 is resolved with the proposal pasted in chat by MikeR
• 2009-05-14-4: Issue 39 resolved with proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00012.html

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Minutes

<Sanjay>

Agenda -

<Sanjay>

1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of May 7, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00016.html
5. Action Items review
#0062 Sanjay - Reword SBL-TA-SP01 to reflect new tighter spec language
PENDING
#0068 Editors - fix the typo "orginalName" in the section 2.3
PENDING
#0069 Khanderao - SBL-TA-3001: Prerequisite should be about "two or more variable declarations
PENDING
#0070 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2020: replace the Prerequisite statements a) and b) by the combined statement - "Multiple partner links (defined in different scopes) share the same name".
PENDING
#0071 Khanderao - SBL-TA-2022: Include 'prerequisite of SBL-TA-2020' as additional prerequisite
PENDING
#0072 Khaderao - SBL-TA-3002 Update prerequisites a) and c) on the lines of: a) a variable declaration has an sca-bpel property attribute b) a value is provided for the property via component configuration
PENDING
#0073 Danny - To further the issue 41 discussion in email
PENDING
#0074 Khanderao - Change the target of 3003 to CT
PENDING
#0075 Najeeb - Raise new issue about requirement of multiplicity (ref: SBL-TA-3004)
DONE
#0076 Khanderao - refind the target of 3005
PENDING
#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
PENDING
6. New Issues
a. Issue 42 SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
7. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 38: Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38
Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00064.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00070.html
b) Issue 39 References to WS-BPEL 2.0 Attributes "myRole" and "partnerRole"
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-39
Email discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00003.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00004.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00012.html
c) Issue 41 SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Awaiting more email discussion (Danny to kick off more discussion)
8. Test assertion doc
Latest Draft v06: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00028.html
Review TAs added by Khanderao starting at SBL-TA-3008
Review TAs added by Sanjay starting at SBL-TA-SP04
9. Plan for testing
Seeking volunteers to write test cases
10. AOB

Approval of May 7, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00016.html

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

Action Items review

 

AI-62 -Pending

 

AI-68 - Keep open

Najeeb:

Let's club this with other channges

Resolution: Minutes of 2009-05-07 posted at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00016.html approved

Khanderao:

I will take care of my AI's this week. Keep them pending

 

AI-73 Danny: I sent mail. No response. Closed.

 

AI-75 Done

 

AI-77 Pending

New Issues

 

Issue 42 SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42

 

Najeeb recommends changing MAY to 'can'.

 

MikeE moves open BPEL-42. Second Khanderao.

 

Approved w/o objection. BPEL-42 is opened.

<Mike Edwards>

I think that there is a normative statement here

 

Issue discussion

<Mike Edwards>

with a MUST

<Mike Edwards>

"To represent an SCA multi-valued reference a WS-BPEL process MUST use a variable which is declared with a sca-bpel:multiReference extension element."

<Mike Edwards>

that is a possible formulation

<Dieter Koenig>

+1

<anish>

+1 as well

Resolution: issue 42 opened

 

MikeE moves to resolves Issue 42 with the following:

<Mike Edwards>

Replace the text of SBPEL3004 with: "To represent an SCA multi-valued reference a WS-BPEL process MUST use a variable which is declared with a sca-bpel:multiReference extension element."

<Mike Edwards>

<Mike Edwards>

folk are welcome to propose an alternative set of words - but I am not following the comments

 

AI on Danny to prepare an alternate proposal.

 

Motion by MikeE expires. No second.

Action: Danny to provide a proposal for issue 42

Issue 38

 

Issue 38 - Is the 'MUST' in section 2.1.2 needed?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-38
Email Discussion
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00062.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00064.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200904/msg00070.html

<Michael Rowley>

2.1.2 Handling @initializePartnerRole
>
> If a partner link is marked with initializePartnerRole="yes" then any component that uses this business process as an implementation MUST configure the corresponding service or reference using binding, promotion and wiring configuration that guarantees that the partner link's partner role will be initialized as soon as the partner link becomes active. If the partner link is mapped to a service, the callback binding would be the relevant binding for this requirement.

MikeE:

Example would be nice.

<Michael Rowley>

For example <reference name="myRef" target="someTarget">

Sanjay:

For the edge-case the example would be complicated

 

MR: Moves to resolve BPEL-38 by replacing section 2.1.2 with above wording

 

MikeE seconds

Anish:

Can this be tested for bother service and reference?

 

Motion approved w/o objection. Issue 38 resolved.

Resolution: issue 38 is resolved with the proposal pasted in chat by MikeR

<Dieter Koenig>

Proposal for BP-39 (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00012.html)
Change from (the resolution of BP-31):
[SBPEL3011] The partnerLinkType and partnerRole attributes of the
<partnerLink> MUST be the same as the partnerLinkType and partnerRole
attributes of the <sca-bpel:multiReference> child element of the variable
whose @name value is same as the value of the @multiRefFrom attribute of
the <partnerLink>.
To:
[SBPEL3011] For the <sca-bpel:multiReference> child element of the variable
whose @name value is same as the value of the @multiRefFrom attribute of
the <partnerLink>, both of the following MUST be true:
(1) The partnerLinkType attribute of the <partnerLink> is the same as the
partnerLinkType attribute of the <sca-bpel:multiReference>.
(2) The name of the partnerRole for the <partnerLink> is the same as the
partnerRole attribute of the <sca-bpel:multiReference>.

 

Danny moves to accept above as resolution to BPEL-39. Dieter seconds.

 

Approved w/oobjection BPEL-39 is resolved.

Resolution: Issue 39 resolved with proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00012.html

 

c) Issue 41 SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Awaiting more email discussion (Danny to kick off more discussion)

 

Danny had sent mail about this.
Danny van der Rijn: Scope1
shipping
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receiving
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Scope2
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shipping
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MR: Discusses alternate algorithm

 

Action on MR to propose alternate algorithm for issue 41

<Martin C>

can you rely on lexcial ordering in xml?
Danny van der Rijn: why couldn't you?
Danny van der Rijn: [I think you can]

<anish>

i think u can

<anish>

too

<anish>

even for an Infoset

 

COB

Action: MR to propose alternate algorithm for issue 41

<Martin C>

you can if you express a mechanism, but thats a bit strange for plain ole bpel folks

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