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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-07-09 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Ashok for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-07-09

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

09 JUL 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Anish Karmarkar
Scribe
Ashok Malhotra

Contents

Topics
[1]  Agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of Jun 25, 2009 minutes
[3]  Action Items review
[4]  New Issues
[5]  Review of the Test Assertions doc
[6]  Issue Discussion
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-07-09-1: Anish to create wording to resolve issue BPEL-42
2009-07-09-2: anish to ask Danny for a proposal on issue 41
2009-07-09-3: Anish to create wording to resolve BPEL-47
2009-07-09-4: MikeE to create proposal for issue BPEL-48
2009-07-09-5: Anish to find volunteer to look at issue 49.

Resolutions


Minutes

<anish>
Agenda -
<anish>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Jun 25, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00037.html
5. Action Items review
#0077 Anish - fix the target where it says: "The component type of the component that uses " with "CT of the BPEL process"
DONE
#0081 Editors - Clean up prerequisites so that they are all inlined.
DONE
#0093 Anish - File an issue for each PR comment
DONE
#0094 MikeE - Raise an issue against SBPEL3021 (to get rid of the MAY)
DONE
6. New Issues
a) Issue 47
Section 2.1.2 (initializePartnerRole) needs an example
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-47
b) Issue 48
BPEL C&I spec does not say anything about component type side files
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-48
c) Issue 49
BPEL process QName is assumed to be unique
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-49
d) Issue 50
Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
e) Issue 51
Conformance statement SBPEL3021 is inappropriate and unnecessary
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-51
7. Review of the Test Assertions doc
Latest Draft v12 - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/download.php/33296/SCA_BPEL_Test_Assertions_12.pdf
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 42
SBPEL3004 has an incorrect 'MAY'
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-42
Email discussion --
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00025.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00031.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00040.html
b) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html
9. AOB

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

Agenda bashing

 
No changes to the agenda

Approval of Jun 25, 2009 minutes

 
 
Minutes approved as posted
Resolution: Minutes of 2009-06-25 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200906/msg00037.html approved.

Action Items review

 
All action items have been completed

New Issues

 
Issue 47
Section 2.1.2 (initializePartnerRole) needs an example
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-47
 
Anish explains issue. Suggests adding a binding.jms example
 
Martin moves to open issue. Khanderao seconds
 
Issue 47 opened w/o objection
Resolution: Issue 47 is opened.
 
Issue 48
BPEL C&I spec does not say anything about component type side files
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-48
 
Anish explains issue
 
MikeE moves to open issue. Martin seconds
 
Issue 48 opened w/o objection
Resolution: Issue 48 is opened.
 
Issue 49
BPEL process QName is assumed to be unique
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-49
Martin:
Not clearly an SCA issue. Its a BPEL issue.
MikeE:
name conflicts are always a problem
 
... why is this special?
Anish:
More of an editorial comment that this assumption be explicitly stated
<Martin C>
can always cna!
 
Martin moves to open issue. MikeE seconds
<Martin C>
but i would like to understand bpel
 
Issue 49 opened w/o objection
Resolution: Issue 49 is opened.
 
Issue 50
Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
Ashok:
I am sympathetic to this
 
Ashok moves to open issue. MikeE seconds enthusiastically!
MikeE:
You may be able to mine the BPEL test suite
 
Issue 50 opened w/o objection
Resolution: Issue 50 is opened.
 
Issue 51
Conformance statement SBPEL3021 is inappropriate and unnecessary
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-51
 
This was an action on MikeE
 
MikeE moves to open BPEL-51. Martin seconds
 
Issue 51 opened w/o objection
Resolution: Issue 51 is opened.
MikeE:
We could try and close this.
<anish>
Remove the normative statement SBPEL3021 and the following sentences in the same paragraph and replace it with the following text:
---------------------
The sca-bpel:requires attribute on a partnerLink is available for BPEL process designers to associate SCA abstract policy intents
with a partnerLink element. Policy intents specified on a partnerLink element using the sca-bpel:requires attribute become part
of the componentType of the BPEL process, appearing as the content of a @requires attribute on either a <service/> or a
<reference/> element in the componentType, depending on whether the partnerLink is used as a service or as a reference.
The form of the sca-bpel:requires attribute is as follows:
---------------------
This proposal also means the removal of the corresponding Test Assertion from the TestAssertions document for BPEL.
 
MikeE moves to resolve BPEL-51 with proposal in JIRA. Martin seconds
Resolution: BPEL-51 is resolved with proposal in JIRA.

Review of the Test Assertions doc

 
MikeE:
The public review version of spec and test assertion for Assembly were in sync
Anish:
Recommends we follow same procedure
Anish:
I think version 12 is ready
 
... please review
Anish:
I thought we would do public review of Assertions doc and Test Cases together
 
Test Assertions doc is ready
 
... so we need to focus on test cases

Issue Discussion

 
 
Najeeb not on the call
Anish:
There has been email discussion. Neither Najeeb or Danny are on the call
Sanjay:
We can attempt to resolve this issue. There has been a lot of discussion
MikeE:
Needs wordsmithing. Perhaps ask someone to create the words.
Action: Anish to create wording to resolve issue BPEL-42
<Mike Edwards>
Sorry not to volunteer but I am now in the middle of the BPEL version of the Assembly test suite
 
Anish:
I suggest we postpone until Danny is on the call.
 
... I will ask Danny to prepare a proposal
Action: anish to ask Danny for a proposal on issue 41
Anish:
Lets go back to the newly opened issues ... we have 10 minutes
 
... I think all issues are editorial except perhaps 49
Anish:
Start with BPEL-47. Suggests example be added
Action: Anish to create wording to resolve BPEL-47
 
Issue 48
Action: MikeE to create proposal for issue BPEL-48
 
Issue 49
Anish:
May require a little work
 
... decide if this is a BPEL issue
Action: Anish to find volunteer to look at issue 49.
 
Issue-50
Anish:
Shall we wait until test suite is done?
MikeE:
You should have something to look at next week
 
AOB
 
Straggler Roll

[End of Minutes]
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