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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-08-20 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Ashok for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-08-20

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

20 AUG 2009

Attendees

Chair
Anish Karmarkar
Scribe
Ashok Malhotra
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00037.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  Agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of Aug 13, 2009 minutes
[3]  Action Items review
[4]  New Issues
[5]  7. Issue Discussion
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-08-20-1: Najeeb to create alternate proposal for Issue 52
2009-08-20-2: Anish will send new proposal for issue 41

Resolutions


Minutes

<anish>
Agenda --
<anish>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Aug 13, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00030.html
5. Action Items review
#0102 Anish Submit a revised proposal for Issue 52
DONE
6. New Issues
a) Issue 54
sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerLinkType and sca-bpel:multiReference/@partnerRole cardinality
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-54
b) Issue 55
Co-occurrence constraints on sca-bpelroperty attribute and sca-bpel:multiReference element
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-55
7. Issue Discussion
5 open issues
a) Issue 52
CT generation (section 2.1.1) does not take into consideration the multRefFrom attribute
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-52
Initial proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200907/msg00037.html
Addendum to the proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00014.html
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00035.html
b) Issue 41
SBPEL2022 has an incorrect 'MAY' and is not applied recursively
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-41
Email discussion -
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00035.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00041.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200905/msg00044.html
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00011.html
Proposal v2: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00036.html
c) Issue 53
BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 - how are they supposed to work?
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00021.html
d) Issue 46
SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
no proposal
e) Issue 50
Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal
8. AOB

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

Agenda bashing

<Anish>
agenda approved

Approval of Aug 13, 2009 minutes

 
 
Minutes approved as posted
Resolution: Minutes of 2009-08-13 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00030.html accepted.

Action Items review

 
#0102 Anish Submit a revised proposal for Issue 52
DONE

New Issues

 
Anish explains the issue
 
... fix schema to make 2 attributes required
Najeeb:
Do we need such a strict constraint?
Anish:
This is a different issue ... I have brought it up earlier
MikeE:
Let's open the issue then we can discuss solutions
 
MikeE moves to open issue 54. Martin seconds
 
No discussion
 
Issue 54 opened without objection
Resolution: Issue 54 is opened.
Anish:
Please send mail
 
b) Issue 55
Co-occurrence constraints on sca-bpelroperty attribute and sca-bpel:multiReference element
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-55
 
Anish describes the issue
 
MikeE moves to open issue 55. Danny seconds
Danny van der Rijn Danny finally shows up in the chat room
 
Issue 55 opened without objection
Resolution: Issue 54 is opened.

7. Issue Discussion

 
5 open issues
a) Issue 52
CT generation (section 2.1.1) does not take into consideration the multRefFrom attribute
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-52
Initial proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200907/msg00037.html
Addendum to the proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00014.html
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200908/msg00035.html
Danny:
Questions wording
Najeeb:
objects to proposed solution ... wants constraints on variable
Anish:
Would you like to generate an alternate proposal?
Najeeb:
Yes
MikeE:
I am not sympathetic to alternate proposal
Action: Najeeb to create alternate proposal for Issue 52
 
<anish>
<Mike Edwards>
ie issue41-ask-v2_mje.doc
Danny van der Rijn: "don't do what the example does"
 
Mike discusses his changes
Danny van der Rijn Sun? In England??
Martin C and in irleand at this point in time (though had been raining non stop for 24hr)
Anish:
Would someone like to reformulate this?
 
... otherwise I will do it
Action: Anish will send new proposal for issue 41
Anish:
can someone create proposal for issue 46?
 
... if no proposal we will close with no action
 
Straggler Roll
 
COB
<anish>
Mike raised the issue that the new requirements be meaningful standalone

[End of Minutes]
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