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Subject: [sca-bpel] Unformatted Minutes of 2009-11-05 TC Call
(See attached file: 2009-11-05.txt)
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[16:55] Room information was updated by: Sanjay 18666824770 +14087744073 +44(0)2081181001 +49(0)69222216106 +353(0)12475650 Meeting ID: 6100473 Meeting password: SCABPEL (7222735) [16:55] Sanjay: Agenda: 1. Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php 2. Appointment of scribe Scribe list attached below 3. Agenda bashing 4. Approval of 2009-10-29 minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00004.html 5. Review of Action Items #0109 Mike Edwards Send instructions for running the Assembly tests #0111 Najeeb Create a TA for the new statement added for resolving issue-56 #0112 Najeeb Create a TA for 2004.1 #0113 Anish look into issue 46 #0114 Anish create a proposal for issue 57 #0115 Mike Edwards Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if) #0116 Anish provide an exact proposal for issue 59 6. Testing MikeE to send instructions for running the tests Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated. Sanjay: SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018 Anish : SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026 7. Issue Discussion a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46 Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00006.html b) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen No proposal -- need a volunteer Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00007.html c) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58 Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html Awaiting a new proposal from MikeE based on 2009-10-29 concall discussions d) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process? Outline of a proposal in Jira Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00008.html e) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50 no proposal (deferred) 8. AOB ----------------------------------------- Scribe list: * Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6 * van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 9/3/9): 11 * Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 9/17/09): 12 * Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8 * Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2009-10-01): 13 * Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-10-0: 12 * Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2009-10-15): 2 * Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 10/22/09): 10 * Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 10/29/09): 1 [17:04] anish: Agenda: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00009.html [17:04] anish: Chair: Sanjay Patil [17:04] anish: Date: 2009-11-05 [17:06] anish: Scribe: Dieter Koenig [17:06] anish: ScribeNick: Dieter Koenig [17:07] Dieter Koenig: 3. Agenda bashing [17:07] Dieter Koenig: Agenda accepted w/o objection [17:07] Dieter Koenig: 4. Approval of 2009-10-29 minutes http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00004.html [17:07] Dieter Koenig: Minutes accepted w/o objection [17:07] anish: Resolution: minutes of 2009-10-29 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00004.html accepted [17:07] Dieter Koenig: 5. Review of Action Items #0109 Mike Edwards Send instructions for running the Assembly tests #0111 Najeeb Create a TA for the new statement added for resolving issue-56 #0112 Najeeb Create a TA for 2004.1 #0113 Anish look into issue 46 #0114 Anish create a proposal for issue 57 #0115 Mike Edwards Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if) #0116 Anish provide an exact proposal for issue 59 [17:08] Dieter Koenig: #0111 and #0112 are done [17:09] Dieter Koenig: #0113 and #0114 are done - proposals submitted [17:09] Dieter Koenig: #0116 done - proposal submitted [17:09] Dieter Koenig: 6. Testing MikeE to send instructions for running the tests Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated. Sanjay: SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018 Anish : SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026 [17:10] Dieter Koenig: No update from Sanjay and Anish [17:10] Dieter Koenig: 7. Issue Discussion [17:10] Dieter Koenig: a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46 Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00006.html [17:10] Mike Edwards: I am on the call now [17:13] Dieter Koenig: Mike E.: agree with the issue 46 proposal [17:15] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Anish), 2nd (Mike E.): close issue 46 with no action [17:15] Dieter Koenig: Motion accepted w/o objection - issue 46 closed with no action [17:15] Dieter Koenig: b) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen No proposal -- need a volunteer Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00007.html [17:18] Dieter Koenig: Najeeb: agree [17:24] Dieter Koenig: Mike E.: need to address the 0..1 case as well [17:26] anish: An optional reference (0..1) is initialized by sca runtime using the sca wiring endpoint reference for the target of the reference. [17:26] anish: s/by sca/by the sca/ [17:27] Dieter Koenig: service invocation may result in a bpel:uninitializedPartnerRole standard fault [17:30] anish: this discussion is very good, but i do think that this is beyond the scope of the current issue and we should open a new one (this is not to say that we should stop the current discussion) [17:32] Dieter Koenig: WS-BPEL 2.0: "An attempt during process execution to read a partner link before its partnerRole EPR is initialized MUST result in the bpel:uninitializedPartnerRole standard fault." [17:33] Dieter Koenig: ... "Partner roles of partner links are read when they are referenced in an <invoke> or the <from> part of a <copy> in an <assign> activity." [17:45] Dieter Koenig: Anish: the (0..1) case seems to be a separate issue [17:48] Dieter Koenig: It seems that the (0..1) case is addressed in issue http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53 [17:51] Martin C: id it just me or did the call just drop? [17:51] Martin C: is... [17:52] Dieter Koenig: maybe just you [17:52] Martin C: just maybe [17:52] Dieter Koenig: the call is still running [17:54] Martin C: i need to run to my F2F meeting, talk next week [17:55] anish bye [17:57] anish i think we can deal with Mike's issue under 53 [17:57] anish Mike filed 53 [17:58] Dieter Koenig: Motion (Anish), 2nd (Mike E.): close issue 57 with no action [17:59] Dieter Koenig: Motion accepted w/o objection - issue 57 closed with no action [18:00] anish: Resolution: Issue 57 closed with no action [18:00] Dieter Koenig: New action item (Danny): proposal for the 0..1 case (issue 53) [18:00] anish: ACTION: Danny to file a new issue regarding idempotency regd initialization in BPEL [18:00] Dieter Koenig: Meeting adjourned
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