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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-11-05 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Dieter for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-11-05

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

05 NOV 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Dieter Koenig
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00009.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  Agenda bashing
[2]  Approval of 2009-10-29 minutes
[3]  Review of Action Items
[4]  Testing
[5]  issue 46
[6]  issue 57
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-11-05-1: Danny to send proposal for the 0..1 case (issue 53)
2009-11-05-2: Danny to file a new issue regarding idempotency regd initialization in BPEL

Resolutions


Minutes

<Sanjay>
Agenda -
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2009-10-29 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00004.html
5. Review of Action Items
#0109 Mike Edwards Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
#0111 Najeeb Create a TA for the new statement added for resolving issue-56
#0112 Najeeb Create a TA for 2004.1
#0113 Anish look into issue 46
#0114 Anish create a proposal for issue 57
#0115 Mike Edwards Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)
#0116 Anish provide an exact proposal for issue 59
6. Testing
MikeE to send instructions for running the tests
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
<Sanjay>
SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish : SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
7. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 46 - SBPEL3006 isn't deterministic
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-46
Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00006.html
b) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00007.html
c) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Awaiting a new proposal from MikeE based on 2009-10-29 concall discussions
d) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00008.html
e) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)
8. AOB
-----------------------------------------
Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 9/3/9): 11
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 9/17/09): 12
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2009-10-01): 13
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-10-0: 12
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2009-10-15): 2
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 10/22/09): 10
* Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 10/29/09): 1

Scribe: Dieter Koenig

Agenda bashing

 
Agenda accepted w/o objection

Approval of 2009-10-29 minutes

<anish>
 
Minutes accepted w/o objection
Resolution: minutes of 2009-10-29 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00004.html accepted

Review of Action Items

<Anish>
#0109 Mike Edwards Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
#0111 Najeeb Create a TA for the new statement added for resolving issue-56
#0112 Najeeb Create a TA for 2004.1
#0113 Anish look into issue 46
#0114 Anish create a proposal for issue 57
#0115 Mike Edwards Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)
#0116 Anish provide an exact proposal for issue 59
 
#0111 and #0112 are done
 
#0113 and #0114 are done - proposals submitted
 
#0116 done - proposal submitted

Testing

<Anish>
MikeE to send instructions for running the tests
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
Sanjay - SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish - SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
 
No update from Sanjay and Anish

issue 46

 
<Mike Edwards>
I am on the call now
MikeE:
agree with the issue 46 proposal
 
Motion (Anish), 2nd (Mike E.): close issue 46 with no action
 
Motion accepted w/o objection - issue 46 closed with no action
Resolution: issue 46 closed with no action

issue 57

 
b) Issue 57 - No initialization mechanism specified for the variable with sca-bpel:multiReferen
No proposal -- need a volunteer
Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00007.html
Najeeb:
agree
MikeE:
need to address the 0..1 case as well
<anish>
An optional reference (0..1) is initialized by the sca runtime using the sca wiring endpoint reference for the target of the reference.
 
service invocation may result in a bpel:uninitializedPartnerRole standard fault
<anish>
this discussion is very good, but i do think that this is beyond the scope of the current issue and we should open a new one (this is not to say that we should stop the current discussion)
 
WS-BPEL 2.0: "An attempt during process execution to read a partner link before its partnerRole EPR is initialized MUST result in the bpel:uninitializedPartnerRole standard fault."
 
... "Partner roles of partner links are read when they are referenced in an <invoke> or the <from> part of a <copy> in an <assign> activity."
Anish:
the (0..1) case seems to be a separate issue
 
It seems that the (0..1) case is addressed in issue http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
<Martin C>
id it just me or did the call just drop?
<Martin C>
is...
 
maybe just you
<Martin C>
just maybe
 
the call is still running
<Martin C>
i need to run to my F2F meeting, talk next week
anish i think we can deal with Mike's issue under 53
anish Mike filed 53
 
Motion (Anish), 2nd (MikeE): close issue 57 with no action
Action: Danny to send proposal for the 0..1 case (issue 53)
 
Motion accepted w/o objection - issue 57 closed with no action
Action: Danny to file a new issue regarding idempotency regd initialization in BPEL
Resolution: Issue 57 closed with no action
 
Meeting adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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