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Subject: Raw text from Java TC call, 7th August 2009
- From: Mike Edwards <mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com>
- To: "OASIS Java" <sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:17:23 +0100
Mark Combellack: - Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached
below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 3rd August
2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33626/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-03.doc
0. Administration
- Issue Status: Open: 22
- SCA-J Public Review
Started: 8th June 2009
Ends: 7th
August 2009
1. Review action items:
Action Items that I believe are done:
Action Items that I believe are still
to be done:
2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62
2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)
2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149
2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens
2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167
2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166
2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example
of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
2009-07-27-01: Chairs to find potential
replacement time for one or both of the cancelled calls.
2009-07-27-02: Mike E to prepare set
of slides for Issue 127
2. New Issues
None
3. Open Issues
a. JAVA-106: RFC2119 Language is needed
for Spring C&I Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00011.html
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33681/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD02%20Issue106v4.doc
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33682/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD02%2BIssue106v4.pdf
b. JAVA-173: SCA Spring C & I specification
should mention how implicit services should be determined for special bean
definitions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-173
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00006.html
c. JAVA-175: SCA Spring C & I specification
should use "id" of the bean to uniquely identify a bean instead
of its name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-175
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00007.html
d. JAVA-163: Spring C&I sca-spring:reference
element has a default attribute which is unexplained
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00014.html
e. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00100.html
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33580/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v3.pdf
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33579/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v3.doc
Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00111.html
f. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html
4. Issues waiting for updated proposals
a. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to specify the limitations of implicit references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal
b. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour
when annotation rules are violated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114
Proposal in Jira
Blocked by JAVA-166
c. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not
say anything about SCA annotations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166
Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish
Action Item)
d. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification
should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167
Outline proposal in Jira
Waiting for full proposal (Mike E Action
Item)
5. Issues with no proposals
a. JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63
No proposal
b. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174
6. AOB
a. Straggler roll call
---------------------------------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (11)
Graham Charters IBM (5)
Mike Edwards IBM (12)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (13)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (14)
Yang Lei (10)
Simon Nash Individual (10)
Scribe: Martin C
Topic: agenda
Agenda approved
Topic: Minutes
Approval of minutes for 3rd August 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33626/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-03.doc
no comments, minutes approved
topic: admin
PR finishes today
Topic: action items
all ongoing
topic: new issues
none
topic: open issues
issue 106
latest proposal at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00011.html
MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33681/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD02%20Issue106v4.doc
PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33682/sca-springci-1.1-spec-WD02%2BIssue106v4.pdf
appendix A 467-468
mike goes through changes
Mike E moves to resolve issue 106 with
the proposal linked above
2nd Yang
Passed w/o
Action: Mike to create wd03 for the
spring spec
Issue 173
Martin C: JAVA-173: SCA Spring C &
I specification should mention how implicit services should be determined
for special bean definitions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-173
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00006.html
Martin C: Ram goes over his proposal
Martin C: Anish seeks some clarifications
Martin C: i cant minute fax tones
Ramkumar R: I got disconnected... will
dial back
Mark Combellack: Ok we shall wait for
you to return
anish: can we specify the package?
Martin C: suggestion to update proposal
when wd03 is produced
Martin C: Ram will update proposal
Martin C: Issua 175
Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-175
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00007.html
Martin C: Ram goes over his proposal
Mike Edwards: Ram - Spring allows 0
or 1 IDs and 0..n names for a bean - and they must ALL be unique, according
to the Spring documentation
Mike Edwards: so you can use any one
of them
Mike Edwards: it is also true that a
Bean can be defined WITHOUT an ID OR a name
Martin C: can someone take over scribe
for a few minutes
anish: this is what the doc says:
anish: "Every bean has one or more
ids (also called identifiers, or names; these terms refer to the same thing).
These ids must be unique within the container the bean is hosted in. A
bean will almost always have only one id, but if a bean has more than one
id, the extra ones can essentially be considered aliases.
When using XML-based configuration metadata,
you use the 'id' or 'name' attributes to specify the bean identifier(s)."
Martin C: back
Mark Combellack: Outline algorithm:
Take the first ID if set. If not take the first name. If neither ID or
name set then don't expose service
Mark Combellack: Outline algorithm:
Take the ID if set. If not take the first name. If neither ID or name set
then don't expose service
Martin C: Ram will revise his proposal
using this outline algorithm
Mark Combellack: (Ram's updated proposal
to be based on Spring WD03)
Martin C: Issue 163
Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00014.html
Martin C: Anish goes over his proposal
Martin C: Anish Moves to close issue
163 no action, 2nd Mike e
Martin C: passed w/o
Martin C: Issue 107
Martin C: Dave on loa so skip over
Martin C: Issue 150
Martin C: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html
Ram describes his proposal.
Mike: Why the 2 different approaches
here?
Anish: These are 2 alternatives and
we should choose 1
Ram: These are 2 alternatives either
of which should work
Anish: Can either of these approaches
allow a reference to made in 1 app context file which is to a bean in another
app context file
?
Ram: Essentially yes, it is possible
to make a reference of that kind
Time folks
COB
Yours, Mike.
Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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