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Subject: Today's minutes


Raw chat log

Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D.
STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect
WW Center of Excellence for Enterprise Systems & Banking Center of Excellence Application Integration Architect

Research Triangle Park,  NC
+1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508)
Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com
[10:56] anish: Agenda --
[10:56] anish: 1. Roll call

2. Scribe appointment
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Minutes of August 16 2010 telcon
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/39048/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-08-16.doc

5. TC Administrivia

a. Recording issue status - 11 new and open

b. Cancel 2010-09-06 call (US labor day)?

6. ACTION ITEMS

2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5
PENDING

2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for Spring C&I
PENDING

2010-02-22-02: Mike to raise the necessary issue for @Remotable annotation on (Related to recent Assembly-218 discussions)
PENDING

2010-04-12-01: Dave B to check availability of an appropriate runtime supporting the EJB Binding
PENDING

2010-06-14-01: Anish to provide proposal for Issue JAVA-182
PENDING

2010-08-16-01: Editors-Update inline schema to latest published Assembly Schema (need update of the name of the SCA core XSD file)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00024.html
PENDING

20100816-01: Mike to chase up with Mary what happened to the CAA Test Suite Public Review
PENDING

7. New Issues (requires 2/3)

a. JAVA-207
Problems with testcases JCA_8007, JCA_8011
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-207
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00036.html

b. JAVA-208
Problems with testcase JCA_7001
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-208

c. Issues/Question for Java CAA testcases JCA_11016
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00042.html

d. Test assertions and Test cases needed for JCA100023 throughJCA100027
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00043.html

8. New spec revisions

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201007/msg00013.html (CAA, POJO, EJB binding)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00030.html (Spring C&I)

9. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE)

a. JAVA-203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider are not adequate
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203

b. JAVA-204: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204

c. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)

d. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182
No proposal (Ram)

e. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

f. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)

g. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)

h. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal

i. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list

10. Test Suite Discussion

POJO Test Assertions:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38844/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38845/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-test-assertions-wd09.odt

POJO Test Cases:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38853/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/38842/sca-j-pojo-ci-1.1-testcases-wd06.odt

11. AOB
a. straggler role

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Scribe list:
Derek Dougans: 0
Graham Charters: 5
Yang Lei IBM: 11
Plamen Pavlov: 3
Anish Karmarkar: 17
Ashok Malhotra: 20
Bryan Aupperle: 24
Martin Chapman: 18
Mike Edwards: 20 (Last scribed: 2010-08-16)
[10:56] jeff.mischkinsky: (Autoreply) sleeping -- zzzzzzzzz - dreaming of IM's
[11:04] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Agenda Basing
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Agenda agreed
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: No comments
[11:07] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Minutes Approved
[11:08] Bryan Aupperle: Topic TC Administrivia
[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second Dave - Cancel meeting on 6 Sep.
[11:09] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motions passes w/o
[11:11] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: 2010-02-01-04 and 2010-06-14-0 overlap, should we remove one of these?
[11:13] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: only reason both are open is the CD part of 2010-02-01-04.
[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: 182 is pretty straight forward and then there is some editorial cleanup.  So we should remove 2010-02-01-04 and modify 2010-06-14-01 to include the CD prep.
[11:15] Bryan Aupperle: All others still pending.
[11:16] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: New Issues
[11:17] Bryan Aupperle: JAVA-207
Problems with testcases JCA_8007, JCA_8011
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-207
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00036.html
[11:20] Bryan Aupperle: AI: Anish - create JIRA components for test documents and update components for open issues
[11:22] Bryan Aupperle: No one to present
[11:22] Bryan Aupperle: JAVA-208
Problems with testcase JCA_7001
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-208
[11:22] Bryan Aupperle: No one to present
[11:23] Bryan Aupperle: Java-210
[11:23] Bryan Aupperle: Issues/Question for Java CAA testcases JCA_11016
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00042.html
[11:24] Bryan Aupperle: No to present
[11:24] Bryan Aupperle: Java-209
[11:24] Bryan Aupperle: Test assertions and Test cases needed for JCA100023 throughJCA100027
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201008/msg00043.html
[11:24] anish: Bryan describes the issue
[11:24] anish: Book keeping issue
[11:25] anish: We approved JAX-WS related normative stmts, but have not added TAs or TCs for the new normative stmts
[11:25] anish: This issue provides a marker for that
[11:25] anish: Bryan moves seconds to open issue 209
[11:25] anish: Bryan moves and Dave seconds to open issue 209
[11:26] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[11:26] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: New spec revisions
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Anish has applied all resolved issues to Spring spec.
[11:27] Bryan Aupperle: Other specs changes should be reviewed.
[11:28] Bryan Aupperle: Spring Spec could be voted as a CD and perhaps a PR after issues 182 is applied.
[11:31] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: One resolved issue against CAA spec.  There are open issues against POJO spec.
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: CAA PR request status: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide&pid=10010&sorter/order=DESC&sorter/field=priority&resolution=-1&component=10103
[11:33] Bryan Aupperle: Mike has an AI to follow up on this.
[11:35] Bryan Aupperle: Dave will ping Mary on this so change second 20100816-01 AI to Dave (and correct number)
[11:35] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Open Issues
[11:36] Bryan Aupperle: JAVA-203: Statements about @WebServiceProvider are not adequate
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-203
[11:36] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan describes proposal
[11:45] Bryan Aupperle: Dave change text in 1.a from "Java implementation class implements a Java interface marked with @Remotable" to "Java implementation class implements the Java interface marked with @Remotable"
[11:45] Bryan Aupperle: Bryan: All of this text seems to replace the first bullet in the spec.
[11:48] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: Bryan, second  Dave - resolve 203 with proposal in Jira as modified in the chat to replace the first bullet in section 8.2.7.
[11:48] Bryan Aupperle: JAVA-204: Normative statement about @BindingType in POJO spec is not enforceable
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-204
[11:51] Bryan Aupperle: Mike reviews issue and proposal
[11:56] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion on default behavior vs. what happens where a WSDL doc exists.
[11:59] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: We cannot require anything that relies on an external WSDL in this spec.
[11:59] Bryan Aupperle: Dave: Why not force WSDL creation?
[11:59] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Not all runtimes will be able to do that.
[12:00] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: Time check.
[12:01] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
[12:01] Bryan Aupperle: Straggler role
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