Formatted minutes of 2011-04-04 telcon

Minutes

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1. Roll call
2. Scribe appointment
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Meeting Minutes
Minutes of 2011-03-28 telcon:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00048.html
5. TC Administrivia
a. Recording issue status - 7 open, 0 new
6. ACTION ITEMS
20110307-03 Mike - Respond to PR comment re resolution of issue 227.
DONE
2011-03-28-1: Mike to produce proposal for issue 228 with alternative 1 (if bean implements >1 remotable interfaces that is an error. Use SCA extensions to fix that)
DONE
2011-03-28-2: Mike to clean up spring C&I spec wrt fixing formating issues (eg: reference format)
DONE
2011-03-28-3: Anish to provide Mike with list of names for the ACK section
DONE
7. Planning for PR of various specs
a) CAA spec: apply issue 233
b) CAA TA: apply issue 235, apply issue 232
c) CAA TC: apply issues 215? & 234
d) POJO spec: apply issue 231
e) POJO TA: apply issue 236
f) POJO TC: apply issue 222, ref udpate(?)
g) Spring: resolve issues 228, 237, apply all resolved issues (228, 230, 237), ed. changes
8. New Issues (requires 2/3)
NONE
9. Issues with proposals
a. JAVA-228 Interface of a service when no element is present
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-228
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00057.html
10. CSD & PR for Spring C&I
Two alternatives for PR: wait till TA/TCs are done OR get public feedback now.
We decided last week to get an estimate for how much time would be needed for TA/TCs to be done before deciding.
11. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE)
a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)
b. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174
c. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)
d. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)
e. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal
f. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list
12. AOB
a. straggler role
13. Spec status
CAA (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
2 new issue, 2nd PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD05 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ??
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201012/msg00000.htmlTA: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD
TC: CD01 PR ended 2010-10-24, 0 open issue, CSD02 expected to be final CSD
POJO (part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 2st PR ended 2010-12-08, CSD03 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: Tuscany (compliant), 2nd impl: ??
TA: CSD01 PR ended 2010-12-23
TC: CDS01 PR ended 2010-12-23
EJB Binding (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
0 open issues, 1st PR done, CSD03 expected to be final CSD
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
TC: WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
Spring C&I (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
1 open issues, WD stage, no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done
JEE (not part of 1st batch of 1.1 specs):
6 open issues, WD stage (not actively worked on), no CSD yet, 60 day PR needed
1st impl: ??, 2nd impl: ??
TA: no work done
TC: no work done
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Scribe list:
Plamen Pavlov: 3
Dave Booz: 3 (Last scribed: 2010-11-0)

22 (Last scribed: 2011-02-21)

31 (Last scribed: 2011-03-07)

27 (Last scribed: 2011-03-14)

23 (Last scribed: 2011-03-21)
Anish Karmarkar: 20 (Last scribed: 2010-03-2

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

Agenda bashing

Anish:

Let's wait for Assembly TC to come to a decision before we discuss exit criteria

Bryan:

We can discuss the MAYs and the SHOULDs as we are doing in other TCs like Bindings

Anish:

We can add a discussion of exit criteria

Meeting Minutes

Minutes of 2011-03-28 telcon:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00048.html

Minutes approved w/o objection

Resolution: Minutes of 2011-03-28 located at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00048.html approved

TC Administrivia

Recording issue status - 7 open, 0 new

ACTION ITEM Review

All AIs are done

issue Java-228

JAVA-228 Interface of a service when no element is present
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-228
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00057.html

Anish:

MikeE not on the call

Anish:

Explains issue

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- if the bean class implements zero Java interfaces annotated with @Remotable, the interface class is the Bean class itself
- if the bean class implements one Java interface that is annotated with @Remotable, the interface class is the Java interface class which is annotated with @Remotable
- where there are no explicit <sca:service/> elements in the application context, if a bean class implements two or more Java interfaces which are annotated with @Remotable, this is not allowed and the SCA runtime MUST raise an error. [SPR30005]

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Where there are no <sca:service/> elements, the bean is exposed as a single service with an interface that is the defined either by the bean class itself, or .is defined by a single @Remotable interface implemented by the bean class. It is not premitted for the bean class to implement two or more @Remotable interfaces in this case - this can only be done with the use of explicit <sca:service/> elements.

Anish:

Typo re word "bean". Should be lower case.

Anish:

Should say "exactly one Java interface" on line 516 second bullet

Bryan moves to resolves 228 in the file as modified above. DaveB seconds

RESOLVED unanimously

Resolution: issue 228 resolved with proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201103/msg00057.html with 2 changes a) change 'Bean' to 'bean', b) should say "exactly one Java interface" on line 516 second bullet

Progress to PR for Spring C&I

Anish:

Discusses timing

Anish:

Let me check with Mike

Exit Criteria

Anish:

Summarizes state of play ... two impls required for all mandatory statements

Anish:

I think out-of-band discussion is needed

Anish:

SHOULDs and MAYs are being re-examined

... we can do the same for our specs

... we have very few optional statements. I have done some work on it. Happy to share with the TC.
MartinC : Q!

Discussion about Fabric3 and what it implments

... and what it does not implement

Martin:

The exercise in Assembly TC is about what has been testing, not about what is optional or

mandatory
MartinC : of course it turns out that most untested stuff is optional! bit removal of optional is not the goal, rather it is removal of untested stuff

Anish:

We will have a call on the 18th

Resolution: 2011-04-11 canceled

Anish:

Inclined to cancel call on the 11th

... next week's call is cancelled

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OASIS SCA-J TC

04 APR 2011

Attendees

Contents

Action Items

Resolutions

Minutes

Agenda bashing

Meeting Minutes

TC Administrivia

ACTION ITEM Review

issue Java-228

Progress to PR for Spring C&I

Exit Criteria

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