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Subject: Re: [sca-policy] ISSUE-104: Clarify meaning of 'does not have to supportintents' in Conformance section



Folks,

In my opinion, it should be valid for a user to write a composite using any of the intents listed in the Policy specification.

It is also valid for a given runtime not to have policy support for any of the intents.  eg there is no support for signing
messages so that integrity intent cannot be honoured.

In this case, the Composite documents are VALID - they cannot be rejected because they contain the intents.
However, the runtime can raise an error and refuse to deploy/run the composite because the intents cannot be
honoured.  The same would be true if a PolicySet were contributed and used, but the set of policies in the
policySet could not be provided either by the container or by the binding implementations available with that
runtime.

In my opinion, what needs changing here is the line in section 11 (Conformance) - it needs to be expanded to say
much as I have said here.


Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain.
Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014    Mobile: +44-7802-467431  
Email:  mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com



From: David Booz <booz@us.ibm.com>
To: sca-policy@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: 12/08/2009 15:39
Subject: [sca-policy] ISSUE-104: Clarify meaning of 'does not have to support intents' in Conformance section





http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-104

Dave Booz
STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com

Inactive hide details for David Booz---08/12/2009 09:59:05 AM---TARGET: SCA Policy FW spec CD02/PR01 DESCRIPTION:David Booz---08/12/2009 09:59:05 AM---TARGET: SCA Policy FW spec CD02/PR01 DESCRIPTION:

From:

David Booz/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS

To:

sca-policy@lists.oasis-open.org

Date:

08/12/2009 09:59 AM

Subject:

[sca-policy] NEW ISSUE: Clarify meaning of 'does not have to support intents' in Conformance section





TARGET: SCA Policy FW spec CD02/PR01

DESCRIPTION:
Section 11 Conformance states (line 2346):
'The implementation does not have to support any intents listed in this specification, and MAY reject SCDL documents that contain them.'

Also consider that POL30024 says the following:
'An SCA Runtime MUST include in the Domain the set of intent definitions contained in the Policy_Intents_Definitions.xml described in the appendix "Intent Definitions" of the SCA Policy specification.'

What does it mean to support an intent? Section 11 needs to be clarified.

PROPOSAL:
None.


This completes my outstanding AI: 20090727-01: status=pending: Dave to raise an issue against the Policy spec to deal with the inconsistency relating to the support of intents.

Dave Booz
STSM, BPM and SCA Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC and SCA-J TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com









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