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Subject: RE: [sdd] 2.3


Oops.  When I work on these, I put the original and the new together, and then delete the original.  In this case, I deleted the new.

 

I had intended to say:

 

The SDD specification must support description of the changes that will occur to the environment as a result of a deployment lifecycle operation.  

 

I prefer the “will occur.. as a result” rather than “will be in effect once.. complete” phrasing.

 

Regards,

Debra

 

 


From: Julia McCarthy [mailto:julia@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:45 PM
To: Danielson, Debra J
Cc: Patton, John H; Robert Dickau; sdd@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [sdd] 2.3

This looks like a suggestion to drop the second sentence. But did you intend to reject the rewording of the first sentence and stick with the "ability of the author" phrasing?

Instead of: The SDD specification must support the ability for the author to describe the changes that will occur to the environment as a result of a deployment lifecycle operation.

How about this suggested wordsmithing (no meaning change intended):
2.3 The SDD specification must support declaration of environment changes that will be in effect once a lifecycle operation is complete.


Julia McCarthy
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RE: [sdd] 2.3

 


This is a side effect of a confusing clause J. In the second sentence, the “author” is the systems integrator aggregating or customizing a solution, and looking to have the necessary information about the changes to the environment while integrating (during the development (integration) phase of the installation process).

That said, this is a header level, and I think that the second part of the text is addressed by 2.3.2.

So I recommend that we reword 2.3 as:

The SDD specification must support the ability for the author to describe the changes that will occur to the environment as a result of a deployment lifecycle operation.

Regards,
Debra


From: Patton, John H [mailto:John.Patton@ca.com]
Sent:
Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:50 PM
To:
Robert Dickau; Julia McCarthy
Cc:
sdd@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
RE: [sdd] 2.3

inline...


From: Robert Dickau [mailto:rdickau@macrovision.com]
Sent:
Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:36 PM
To:
Julia McCarthy; Patton, John H
Cc:
sdd@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
RE: [sdd] 2.3

Agree with reworded first sentence, anyway, though of course with "in affect" --> "in effect".
[Patton, John H] I also agree... see below for more on second sentence.


From: Julia McCarthy [mailto:julia@us.ibm.com]
Sent:
Thursday, 02 March 2006 11:13 am
To:
Patton, John H
Cc:
sdd@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
[sdd] 2.3

The original:
2.3 Projected Changes to Environment: In addition to describing the content of a solution package and the appropriate information required to install this content, the SDD specification must support the ability for the author to define information in order to describe the changes to the environment once the package is installed. This information enables a provisioning application to better manage the system resources.In addition, this information is required during the integration phase of the deployment lifecycle as the solution requires specific capabilities to be deployed to complete the solution. Just knowing the payload of the package is not adequate.


John's rewrite:
Option 1) 2.3 The SDD specification must support the ability for the author to define information that describes the changes to the environment after a deployment lifecycle operation is complete. The SDD specification must support the ability for the author to define requirements that need to be met during the integration phase of the deployment lifecycle operation.


Discussion:
I don't understand what the second sentence means. What is "the integration phase"?

[Patton, John H] This is a very good question that I think I had when I used it from the original. Now that you raise the question, I don't think that there are formal deployment lifecycle "phases" defined. My best guess of the intent from the original is that it means the "execute" phase, where the system is actually being changed... files laid down, databases created, registry entries added, etc. Maybe? Otherwise, yeah... I also have no idea what this meant. :-)


I also suggest the following wordsmithing for the first sentence of this requirement:
2.3 The SDD specification must support declaration of environment changes that will be in affect once a lifecycle operation is complete.



Julia McCarthy



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