Re: [search-ws] Fw: [search-ws-comment] Suggestions

["Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress" <rden@loc.gov>]

Anyone else (besides Ralph and me) have an opinion on this?

My view, which I have stated whenever something of this sort comes up, is 
that you don't relegate a suggested feature to an extension if (a) the 
standard is still in development, and (b) it is felt to be a useful feature.

With regard to the first point, sure, if you have an approved, official 
standard and someone says "how do you do this" you might say "there is an 
extension capability" rather than say, "well we'll just amend the standard". 
But in our case we are still developing the standard so we don't incur the 
cost of amendment.

So that takes us to point (b).  If we answer "you can do this as an 
extension" then (if you accept my premise) that says we don't think it is a 
useful feature.

I believe that the ability for the server to suggest alternatives when a 
query results in zero hits is a valuable feature.We talked about this in 
Z39.50 often, though we never came up with a solution.   I'll back down on 
my suggestion that this be a first class parameter, and suggest that we find 
a way to build this into our diagnostic facility.

I'd like members' views on this.

--Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LeVan,Ralph" <levan@oclc.org>
To: "Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress" <rden@loc.gov>; "OASIS SWS TC" 
<search-ws@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [search-ws] Fw: [search-ws-comment] Suggestions


I'm in favor of leaving this as an extension.

Ralph

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress [mailto:rden@loc.gov]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:57 AM
> To: OASIS SWS TC
> Subject: [search-ws] Fw: [search-ws-comment] Suggestions
>
> Nobody has responded to this yet.  Perhaps we could briefly kick this
idea
> around a bit among us?  The suggestion is that the protocol supply a
way for
> the server to suggest alternatives when the query results in no hits.
(He
> says "query fails" but I think he means the query failed to locate any
> recorrds.)  Would it be a good idea to incorporate a first class
parameter
> like the one he suggests? (Rahter than relegate this to an extension.)
>
> --Ray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willem Jan Faber" <WillemJan.Faber@KB.nl>
> To: <search-ws-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:21 AM
> Subject: [search-ws-comment] Suggestions
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I'm currently prototyping a new SRU server for the KB, and looking at
> the new specifications for SRU,
> I could not find anything which gives a suggestion to the user after
the
> query has failed.
>
> What I did was add an extraResponseData field which give's out a clue
to
> the user : 'did u mean ?'
>
>
> <srw:extraResponseData>
> <suggestions>
> <suggestionfor>deeelderr</suggestionfor>
> <suggestion>deelder</suggestion>
> <suggestion>feelders</suggestion>
> <suggestion>dukeelder</suggestion>
> <suggestion>deelde</suggestion>
> </suggestions>
> </srw:extraResponseData>
>
> (Currently I'm using the SpellCheckComponent from SOLR to generate
these
> result's)
>
> Are there any idea's where this should fit in the new SRU standards ?
>
> All the best,
>
> Willem Jan Faber.
>
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