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Subject: Assertion Validation Service


The notion of an assertion validation service is floating around and
appeared on the ballot, but it is not clear to me that there is significant
agreement on what it means.

Phill suggested that it is something like X-KISS. If so, I suggest it be
called a PK validation service or something of that sort, since it is not
validating assertions, but the cryptographic operations used to bind the
assertions to its issuer and/or subject.

Assuming this is what is intended, I see two issues.

The first is procedural. In my mind this is a major change of scope in SAML
and should have been presented to the rqmnts group in the form of a use case
or rqmnt. It certainly seems to me to be more like a business rqmnt than a
technical mechanism, as it implies various characteristics of the client
systems and networks not mentioned in any current use cases.

The second issue is more significant. As I understand it, XKMS (which
subsumes X-KISS) has just been submitted to the W3C. It does not seem wise
to have two different standards groups working on the same standard at the
same time. The obvious resolution would be to have SAML simply reference
X-KISS. This is ok with me, but we are faced with the same problem as with
XML encryption. (Debated and balloted in the rqmnts group) It may not be
completed in time for SAML. It seems impractical to reference something
which does not exist.

I have not been involved with XKMS. Perhaps it is destined to be swiftly
ratified with little or no modification. That would eliminate the problem.
Can anyone comment on this?

Hal


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