RE: Seen In the Press

["Platt, Darren" <dplatt@securant.com>]

I do not believe this is an appropriate use of this mailing list.  That
said, I believe I deserve the opportunity to respond, and will do so
briefly.

I did not, nor have I ever represented to anyone that Securant invented
SAML.

Securant and Netegrity agreed at the beginning of the SAML effort that it
was best served by having a 'neutral' chairperson, and Securant has
continued to honor that agreement by not attempting to assume the chair.

I respect and appreciate all of Prateek's contributions and intentions thus
far in the SAML effort.

I do not believe that there is an 'undisputed market leader' in this space.

I am not sure the purpose of Marc's message, but I don't think it was at all
productive.

Please send any response directly to me (and whoever else appropriate) so we
can keep the focus of the overall TC list on the truly important issues.
Perhaps there should be another list established as Bob Morgan suggests
called 'politics' - please just don't put me on it ;~)

Regards,

Darren



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chanliau, Marc [mailto:MChanliau@netegrity.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:08 AM
> To: security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Seen In the Press
> 
> 
> Some weeks ago we were called upon to elect a new chairperson (or
> co-chairpersons, as it were), following Eve's resignation. 
> 
> Right before the vote took place, Securant's Darryl Platt 
> made a remark
> cautioning people that voting for the Netegrity 
> representative (Prateek
> Mishra) would be dangerous because Netegrity would claim to 
> have invented
> SAML (I don't recall Darryl's exact words, so I'm not quoting 
> him). At the
> time, much to the amazement of my colleagues on the call, I 
> decided not to
> address Darryl's unfair (and unfounded) remark.
> 
> Before and after the election of our new co-chairpersons, I've had the
> privilege to present SAML in several European countries 
> (sometimes in a
> foreign language) in addition to the US, on behalf of my 
> company. We've
> never made the claim that SAML was Netegrity's invention, as 
> Darryl would
> have it.  
> 
> However, in this week's issue of Infoworld, Brian Fonseca 
> reported on Web
> Services security mentioning Netegrity, Securant, and Oblix 
> ("Aegis forged
> for Web services", Infoworld 07.23.01, p. 22). 
> Here is a passage of that article:
> "Securant helped pioneer the AuthXML standards proposal, 
> which eventually
> became the Web security standard SAML [...]." Since I don't 
> believe Fonseca
> made that up, "somebody" had to tell him!
> 
> I think it's fair for a company to take some of the credit 
> for SAML, and
> Securant can certainly do that because they have contributed 
> quite a lot to
> the standard, as others have. However, I don't think Darryl's 
> earlier remark
> was judicious in light of this recent article.
> 
> I know that we all love to hate an undisputed market leader, 
> but we also all
> need to practice what we preach...
> 
> Marc Chanliau
> Sr. Product Manager
> Netegrity, Inc.
> 
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