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Subject: Minutes for SSTC Telecon, Tuesday 27 May 2003
Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 27 May 2003 Dial in info: +1 865 673 3239 #238-3466 Minutes taken by Steve Anderson ====================================================================== Summary ====================================================================== Votes: - Minutes from 20 May 2003 call accepted - Accept Prateek's edits removing the word SSO from lines 523-524 - Accept changes to Conformance Spec, section 2.5, table 2 - Accept Prateek's changes to schema files - Advance draft specification to committee specification - Return to bi-weekly meeting schedule, beginning with this call Previous Action Items Still Open: - #0038: Continue developing Metadata specs - #0013: Request use of WS-Trust for CC Proposal - #0047: Update Issues List from V1.0 - #0004: [AI-39] Propose WSDL for metadata New Action Items: - Chairs to propose language for interpretation of "successfully using" - Rob to post V1.1 end game schedule to list ====================================================================== Raw Notes ====================================================================== > > Agenda: > > 1. Roll call > - Attendance attached to bottom of these minutes - Quorum achieved - 2/3 membership NOT present - discussion of how to proceed, lacking 2/3 membership present - email vote? how long will that take - Hal: section 1.n of the OASIS TC process allows for immediate voting, to last 5 days - Steve: 5 calendar / working? - Phill arrived, 2/3 membership NOW present > > 2. Accept minutes from previous meeting, 20 May > < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/ > 200305/msg00131.html > > - [VOTE] unanimous consent, accepted > > 3. Action item review (see attached action items) > > Closed Items: > > #0042: Conformance edits for candidate ctte spec > #0043: Core edits for candidate ctte spec > #0044: Bindings edits for candidate ctte spec > #0045: Security Considerations edits for candidate ctte spec > #0046: Differences document edits > > Open Action Items: > - Rob: proposes we skip these for now, since they don't impact the CS doc set - [note that there was discussion of AI0047, see below] > > #0038: Continue developing Metadata specs > Owner: Jahan Moreh > Status: Open > Assigned: 06 May 2003 > Due: --- > Comments: > Rob Philpott 2003-05-06 14:40 GMT > 29-April: Continue developing Metadata specs (not required for V1.1 > last call). > > Rob Philpott 2003-05-06 16:53 GMT > 1-May: Jahan posted draft -06 of the spec and schema file to the > repository. See document references associated with this action item. > > > #0013: Request use of WS-Trust for CC Proposal > Owner: Maryann Hondo > Status: Open > Assigned: 23 Mar 2003 > Due: --- > Comments: > Rob Philpott 2003-03-24 02:30 GMT > We need to formulate appropriate language for a request to WS-Trust > folks on SSTC mailing list. MaryAnn agreed to represent the question > to the WS-Trust Authors on our behalf. Question to WS-Trust authors: > (0) SSTC is interested in using portions of WS-Trust specification. > (1) Clarify their intent on submission to standards body and relevant > time frame > (2) Will the WS-Trust specification be submitted to a standards body > within the next three months > (3) Alternatively, would WS-Trust authors consider releasing WS-Trust > specification (appropriate waiver of copyright) to the SSTC to build a > derivative work. > > Rob Philpott 2003-04-08 05:09 GMT > Carlisle completed the draft. > The AI has been transferred to Maryann who will now follow up with > the authors. > > Rob Philpott 2003-04-15 21:54 GMT > Maryann notified the authors of our request on 14-April and asked to > set up an authors con-call to discuss it. The con-call will take place > sometime after the RSA Conference. > > Rob Philpott 2003-04-29 22:07 GMT > 29-April: Author's con-call is scheduled for 30-April > > Rob Philpott 2003-05-06 21:17 GMT > 6-May: Lengthy discussion during con-call. See minutes > (200305/msg000091 - see reference link). > > > #0047: Update Issues List from V1.0 > Owner: Rob Philpott > Status: Open > Assigned: 20 May 2003 > Due: --- > Comments: > Rob Philpott 2003-05-20 22:06 GMT > In a private mail exchange, "Eve L. Maler" wrote: > It would be nice to update/extract items from it (and I also think we > should build a more official list of items we have promised to deal > with and design components we have promised to remove in V2.0), > but I don't think our last-call schedule should depend on it. > - Jeff: feels we should have a 1.1 issues list - Eve: but an 'ongoing issues list' doesn't impact as heavily - Jeff: would like to fold in the deferred items - Rob: intends to do that, but just haven't been able to complete it - will do ASAP - no strong objections heard to proceeding without it for now > > #0004: [AI-39] Propose WSDL for metadata > Owner: Prateek Mishra > Status: Open > Assigned: 17 Mar 2003 > Due: --- > Comments: > > > 4. Review spec, schema updates NOT discussed on 20-May > a. Bindings - Prateek recommended change "SUMMARY: I am making the > editorial recommendation that we remove the word SSO from lines > 523-524." > 1. See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/ > 200305/msg00135.html > - Prateek: this was the result of multiple edits - Rob: shall we vote on these edits to accept them? - [MOTION] Accept Prateek's edits removing the word SSO from lines 523-524 - [VOTE] no objections, passes > > b. Conformance Spec - Section 2.5/Table 2 updates > 1. See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/ > 200305/msg00137.html > - Rob: there were a number of elements listed in the table that are no longer in the spec - there were some listed unbounded that are not, vice versa, etc - Prateek did to a careful review of that - didn't get a lot of review in the last review period - [MOTION] Accept changes to Conformance Spec, section 2.5, table 2 - [VOTE] no objections, passes > > c. Schema files: Prateek updates: > i. Assertion schema (draft-04) - fix document identifier > ii. Protocol Schema (draft-05) - fix document identifier and > assertion schema location reference. > iii. See updated zip file: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ > security-services/200305/msg00140.html > - [MOTION] Accept Prateek's changes to schema files - [VOTE] no objections, passes > > 5. Vote to declare specifications to be SSTC Committee Specifications: > "The vote to approve the work as a Committee Specification requires a > 2/3 vote of TC members, with no more than 1/4 objecting. As with other > TC decisions, this decision should minuted and posted to the mail list > and web page. The TC chair should also notify the TC Administrator so > that the specification can be added to a web page listing Committee > Specifications." > - Rob: all changes from minutes of last meeting are in the documents - Eve: not caught up on what happened with ID/IDRef issue - Irving: we decided to make the non-backwards-compatible change, removing the SAML id type and change to direct xsd type, and used NCName - also took out the intermediate type definition - [MOTION] Advance draft specification to committee specification - [VOTE] no objections, passes - [much rejoicing] > > 6. Target V1.1 end game schedule: > a. [Target: 27-May] Post CS docs and schemas to web site - Rob: will be posting the CS doc set this afternoon > b. [Target: 28-May] The TC chairs announce to OASIS that the Committee > Spec is available for a 30-day Public Review period. - Phill: will this be a PR thing, or will that be at final approval - Hal: for this step, we may notify other standards groups - might be appropriate for PR stuff when we submit to OASIS - Rob: OASIS will definitely be sending a notice, and folks are encouraged to pass along to any interested parties > c. [Target: 30-June] End of Public Review period - prepare new errata > document as needed. > d. [Target: 1-July (1st Tuesday following 30-day period)] TC vote to > submit the Committee Spec to OASIS. - Rob: will be a separate vote from today - Jeff: we'll be voting on how to handle comments/issues that arise during review period - Hal: we can choose to make limited changes and submit to OASIS - Rob: this schedule is assuming we don't encounter any major issues > e. [Target: 1-July] Chairs begin preparing OASIS spec submission document > which includes > 1. Reference links to specs > 2. Certification by at least 3 vendors successfully using the spec - Hal: that's 3 organizational members - Rob: we won't need to break it down by function as we did last time, as we discussed in a previous meeting - Rob: can we get a sense that we'll have that? - believe that Scott will - RLBob: Internet2 is moving that way - Rob: RSA is well under way - Irving: we aren't currently moving, but there's reasonable chance we will within the next month or 2 - Jeff: Rob should check with Karl Best on not having an attestation matrix - Hal: certain it will be fine, cites OASIS requirements - Rob: so we'll have to vote on the meaning of "successfully using", but not today - Hal: we'll have to consider compatibility with 1.1 vs. taking advantage of features new to 1.1 - Jeff: sounds like an AI - [ACTION] Chairs to propose language for interpretation of "successfully using" - Hal: remembers that some were reticent to post intentions - Jeff: can either send to the list or send to chairs privately > 3. Describe disposition of all public review comments > 4. IPR policy compliance statements > f. [Target: 15-July] The submission document must be submitted to OASIS > by the 15th of the month > g. [Target: 1-August] OASIS will make the announcement of the TC's > request for standardization of the committee spec by the 1st of the month. > h. [Target: 15-August] Voting will commence by the 15th of the month. > i. [Target: 31-August] Voting will complete at the end of the month. > - Rob: any questions on schedule - Jeff: there's an expectation that editorial comments received during the review are being incorporated in real time, because there's no time provided for doing it at the end - Hal: there's nothing to prevent us from approving good comments as we receive them - Jeff: we just need to waive the flag indicating what we're doing - [ACTION] Rob to post V1.1 end game schedule to list > > 7. Return TC meetings to bi-weekly? > - [MOTION] Return to bi-weekly meeting schedule, beginning with this call - Hal: we can make any particular 'off' week an 'on' week as necessary - [VOTE] no objections, passes > > 8. Any other business > - none > > 9. Adjourn > - Adjourned - next meeting 10 June ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Attendance of Voting Members: Irving Reid Baltimore Hal Lockhart BEA John Hughes Entegrity Solutions Jason Rouault HP Bob Morgan Individual Prateek Mishra Netegrity Frederick Hirsch Nokia Charles Knouse Oblix Steve Anderson OpenNetwork Simon Godik OverXeer Rob Philpott RSA Security Dipak Chopra SAP Jahan Moreh Sigaba Bhavna Bhatnagar Sun Jeff Hodges Sun Eve Maler Sun Emily Xu Sun Phillip Hallam-Baker Verisign Attendance of Observers or Prospective Members: Krishna Sankar Cisco Mike White Individual Kevin Shanley Entrust Darren Platt PingID Ronald Jacobson Computer Associates Membership Status Changes: Padraig Moloney NASA - Lost voting status due to inactivity -- Steve
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