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Subject: RE: [security-services] RE: Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 30 Septe mber 2003
I quote from your original message: [quote] I will have to object to this Action Item as the SS-TC needs to re-charter from scratch since they have completed their original deliverables. The TC process states this at: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#closing. [end-quote] On investigating the URL link you provided: [quote] (o). Closing a TC TC Administration may close any TC that fails to conduct at least one quorate meeting or conduct any electronic ballots during any six month period; whose voting membership falls below three members; has reached its completion date; or has failed to show progress towards achieving its purpose as defined by its charter. TC Administration must close a TC that has completed its deliverables. A TC can be closed by resolution of its members or by resolution of the Board. [end-quote] My reading of your message was: the TC has completed its deliverables and therefore, following OASIS rules, "The TC administration must close a TC that has completed its deliverables". I was fairly astonished (astounded?) at this reading and asked for clarification, perhaps not in the most collegial fashion. Since then you have clarified your position as one of checking to make sure we are following OASIS rules. That seems quite reasonable to me and we would be happy to work with you to ensure that all OASIS rules are appropriately followed. - prateek -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:28 PM To: oasis sstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: [security-services] RE: Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 30 Septe mber 2003 Prateek, You have twisted/ misunderstood the issue, I did NOT indicate that the work in the SS-TC was NOT valuable/required and did NOT indicate that IBM did NOT support the work in the SS-TC but there are rules to follow in OASIS and I'm pointing out these rules. Is there a problem in doing so or are we NOT supposed to do this ? Are there reasons why you would not want to create a new charter (per rules) for the new work that goes beyond the scope of the original charter ? Maybe you can clarify as I think its valuable to make sure that everyone has a equal chance to participate in the formation of specifications in an open standards body. I also want to understand you statement "your statement has been made on a public forum and therefore available to press and analysts, I wanted to confirm with you before calling further attention to it in the broader media" as I think that this is not the proper behavior for an OASIS co-chair ! Anthony Nadalin | work 512.436.9568 | cell 512.289.4122 |---------+----------------------------> | | "Mishra, Prateek"| | | <pmishra@netegrit| | | y.com> | | | | | | 10/01/2003 11:00 | | | AM | |---------+----------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Anthony Nadalin/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "oasis sstc (E-mail)" <security-services@lists.oasis-open.org> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: [security-services] RE: Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 30 Septe mber 2003 | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------| Hmmm, I don't really get this: [quote] > Rob to draft charter changes I will have to object to this Action Item as the SS-TC needs to re-charter from scratch since they have completed their original deliverables. The TC process states this at: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#closing. [end-quote] So is it IBM's official position that the SSTC should be dissolved and the SAML effort halted? As your statement has been made on a public forum and therefore available to press and analysts, I wanted to confirm with you before calling further attention to it in the broader media. Thanks, Prateek Mishra Co-Chair, SSTC Netegrity To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security-services/members/leave _workgroup.php.
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