RE: [security-services] Groups - liberty-architecture-overview-v1 .1.pd

I've never said that there were IPR conditions that have been violated. I said that it remains unclear, based on the email message that accompanied the submission, whether the submission meets the conditions for OASIS. The specific item that I do not see fully acknowledged in the email message is Item #1 in Section OASIS.IPR.3.1. I acknowledge that this may be covered in documents that are not easily found on the SS TC website. Perhaps you can be kind enough to show me where?

I am reproducing here the contents of:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200304/msg00072.html

This is a link that I posted directly in response to your previous message, including to a copy to you *personally*. It states in part:

"Copyright in the Liberty Alliance Version 1.1 Specifications is held jointly

by the Liberty Alliance member companies identified in the document

copyright statements. Our Liberty Alliance Agreements grant, with board

approval, copyright licenses needed to prepare derivative works, among other

activities, as required by the OASIS IPR Policy, section 3.1(1). We believe

that all of the necessary conditions for a proper Contribution as shown in

the IPR Policy section 3.1 are met."

</Prateek>

I don't think I've suggested that the OASIS Board needs to oversee every action of the TC. However, in the case where the TC is placing documents into its repository that have unclear IPR restrictions it would be helpful if the OASIS Board made some statement as to whether these documents have been determined to have met the criteria for submission to OASIS.

This is an issue that needs to be taken up with the OASIS board. I am not aware of any situation within the SSTC where documents with "unclear IPR restrictions" have been posted or otherwise introduced within the SSTC process.

</Prateek>

Thanks again,
Mike

"Mishra, Prateek" <pmishra@netegrity.com>

10/18/2003 03:34 PM

To: Michael McIntosh/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, "Mishra, Prateek" <pmishra@netegrity.com>
cc: "'Jeff.Hodges@sun.com '" <Jeff.Hodges@sun.com>, "'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org '" <security-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: RE: [security-services] Groups - liberty-architecture-overview-v1 .1.pdf uploaded

Hi Prateek,

Thanks for sending this, I missed it before. It appears that this unsigned email message comes from several OASIS SS TC members who also happen to be LA members. Has the TC received any definitive statements directly from the LA Board?

This is a matter of public record. Please see:

http://www.projectliberty.org/press/releases/2003-04-11.html

The formal SSTC minutes of Aprl 15, 2003 describes the submission and acceptance of the contribution.

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200304/msg00128.html

</Prateek>

Also, even if this submission has received the LA Board's approval it remains unclear whether it meets the conditions for submission under OASIS. There are several specific conditions required for submission to OASIS that do not appear to have been addressed by the email message. Please see: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php

I am sorry I do not follow this line of reasoning. What are the specific conditions that have not been met? To my knowledge all of the conditions in http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php are met by the submissions. Could you please point to the specific portions (section numbers, text) of http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php that you believe have been violated?

</Prateek>

Has the OASIS Board made it's position clear on this specific set of documents? I suggest that any relevant statements related to IPR be collocated with the documents in the archive.

I am sorry I do not understand your question. The SSTC is an autonomous group that functions under the rules given in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php. Are you suggesting that the OASIS board must give an opinion on day-to-day TC decisions?

</Prateek>

Thanks,
Mike

"Mishra, Prateek" <pmishra@netegrity.com>

10/17/2003 09:31 PM

To: Michael McIntosh/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, "'Jeff.Hodges@sun.com '" <Jeff.Hodges@sun.com>
cc: "'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org '" <security-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: RE: [security-services] Groups - liberty-architecture-overview-v1 .1.pdf uploaded

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200304/msg00072.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael McIntosh
To: Jeff.Hodges@sun.com
Cc: security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: 10/17/2003 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [security-services] Groups -
liberty-architecture-overview-v1.1.pdf uploaded

Can someone please show me where this TC has been given the rights to
prepare derivative works or reproduce portions of this document?
This document explicitly forbids these actions.

Thanks,
Mike

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