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Subject: FW: FW: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change?


Definitive statement from Karl re: voting requirements for OASIS TC charter
clarification...

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:56 PM
To: Philpott, Robert
Cc: 'Mishra, Prateek'
Subject: Re: FW: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change?

Start with the number of voting members (29) in order to determine the 
number required as quorum at a meeting (15). If you have 15 members in 
attendance then you have quorum.

Then, once you have quorum, you need 2/3 of those present (and no more 
than 1/4 against) in order to pass.

-Karl



Philpott, Robert wrote:
> Hi Karl...
> 
> You and I discussed this matter in a phone conversation on 21-Oct and you
> followed up with me in email.  Mike McIntosh made a claim on the con-call
> today that our charter clarification vote taken on 14-Oct with a result of
> 19 yes and 2 no votes did not pass since the TC had 29 voting members on
> that date. There were 21 voting members on the con-call that day.  So it
> appears that others are somewhat confused (as was I) by the wording in the
> TC process document (see below) as to the meaning of the 2/3 requirement.
> You explained quite clearly to me that following RROO, it is 2/3 of those
> present at the vote (which clearly makes much more sense); NOT 2/3 of the
> total TC voting membership.
> 
> Would you please provide me with a definitive statement that I can pass
> along to the TC regarding the voting requirement for a charter
> clarification.  I recommend making a clarification to the process document
> since this has come up a couple of times now.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Rob Philpott 
> RSA Security Inc. 
> The Most Trusted Name in e-Security 
> Tel: 781-515-7115 
> Mobile: 617-510-0893 
> Fax: 781-515-7020 
> mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philpott, Robert 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:26 PM
> To: 'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: [security-services] FW: SSTC charter change?
> 
> Since Mike McIntosh raised this issue during the call today...
> 
> Here is part of an email exchange that I recently had with Karl re: the
> voting requirements for a TC charter clarification.  I had also thought
the
> 2/3 applied to total TC membership.  He emphatically stated that was not
> correct.
> 
> The current TC process states "Approval for clarification shall require at
> least 2/3 of the total membership of a TC voting to approve and no more
than
> 1/4 voting to disapprove."  This is actually worded a bit ambiguously.
> Based on my conversation with Karl, the "...total membership..."
> actually refers to the membership that is present at the quorum-valid
> meeting where the vote is taken.  
> 
> I will ask Karl to please confirm this and I will post his response to the
> list.  I will also recommend that the TC process document be clarified.
> 
> 
> Rob Philpott 
> RSA Security Inc. 
> The Most Trusted Name in e-Security 
> Tel: 781-515-7115 
> Mobile: 617-510-0893 
> Fax: 781-515-7020 
> mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: Philpott, Robert
> Cc: 'pmishra@netegrity.com'
> Subject: Re: SSTC charter change?
> 
> [Rob] <other discussion deleted>
> 
> We discussed this on the phone, but I'll review in writing.
> 
> The motion to approve a charter revision requires 2/3 vote, which is not 
> the same thing as 2/3 of all voting members. If you follow Robert's, in 
> order to conduct business you've first got to have a quorum present. In 
> your case, majority of 29 eligible, so 15 present. Then, of the members 
> present, you must have 2/3 and no more than 1/4 against.
> 
> Since you had 21 present you had quorum (15 or more present). Then 2/3 
> of those present would be 14 (2/3 or 21).
> 
> Since you had 14 or more votes in the affirmative, and less than 6 (1/4 
> of 21) then this passes.
> 
> [Rob] <other discussion deleted>
> 
> -Karl
> 
> 
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