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Subject: RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website
Karl - one of the reasons the SSTC uses a "last call" is to minimize the probability that we will need to repeat the OASIS 30-day Public Review period. This gives us a bit more certainty in our scheduling, although it doesn't eliminate the possibility that it will still be required. Anyway we are in sync. The schedule we're working toward includes: *** start of SSTC process *** 1) vote to hold our internal SSTC last call period (requires simple majority) 2) SSTC last call period (minimum of 2 weeks) 3) update specs *** start of OASIS process *** 1) a vote to CD (requires 2/3) 2) a vote to hold OASIS public review (requires simple majority) 3) 30-day OASIS Public Review 4) update specs if required 5) go back to OASIS step 3 if substantial changes were made 6) re-approve as CD (requires 2/3) 7) OASIS vote Rob Philpott Senior Consulting Engineer RSA Security Inc. Tel: 781-515-7115 Mobile: 617-510-0893 Fax: 781-515-7020 mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com -----Original Message----- From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:47 AM To: Eve L. Maler Cc: Philpott, Robert; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org; Dee Schur; Robin Cover; pmishra@netegrity.com; Jeff Hodges; Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com Subject: Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website Eve: All this is okay, except that step #4 is not optional; the TC must reapprove the CD after the review. Please send a sentence or two or three to Dee for her to include in the weekly news. What you've suggested (with the clarification) is about right. (Sorry if I started a firestorm; I just wanted to make sure that we were all clear about what this step was and wasn't.) -Karl Eve L. Maler wrote: > I'm keeping the cc list here so people can see the conclusion, but I > suggested that any finer points should be discussed in private mail. > > Karl, since we're doing this at the TC stage and on the TC's > recognizance only, it's prior to the steps you list below. It's "step > 0", if you like. It goes like this: > > 0. Last-call working draft review > 1. Approve as CD > 2. Public review > 3 and 4. Revise and reapprove as CD (if necessary) > 5. Vote to submit for OASIS Standard balloting > > Note that this step 0 is a practice of long standing in the SSTC (it > predates the current TC process and the mandated 30-day CD review on the > way to balloting, for example :-). Now that I understand the text I was > seeing in the TC process doc, I think it's clear that we need not > lengthen our planned schedule. But if you're willing to publicize this > review period, then perhaps we modify the second sentence of my > suggested blurb to say something like "...and is soliciting review > comments and implementor feedback prior to preparing Committee Drafts > (after which time the TC will conduct an additional 30-day CD review)." > > Eve > > Karl F. Best wrote: > >> Rob: >> >> You're correct in that the Public Review is optional before the TC >> finally approves the spec as a Committee Draft *if* that CD is not >> going to be submitted for consideration as an OASIS Standard. If the >> CD is going to be submitted then there must be a public review. But as >> what is sent out for public review must be approved first as a CD, >> maybe where we're at is the first CD approval. >> >> We do it like this: 1) approve as CD, 2) public review, 3) revise, 4) >> reapprove as CD, 5) vote to submit to OASIS. >> >> Steps 1-3 can be repeated as often as desired. >> >> My concern is that the TC has invented a new, extra-procedural step >> named "last call". This is very confusing, both to people who are >> acquainted with the OASIS process and won't know where this fits, as >> well as to people who will confuse this with the W3C process. >> >> That said, I'm happy for us to announce this "review" (or whatever) to >> our members; we should just be clear about where this fits in the >> process to avoid confusion. >> >> -Karl > > -- ================================================================= Karl F. Best Vice President, OASIS office +1 978.667.5115 x206 mobile +1 978.761.1648 karl.best@oasis-open.org http://www.oasis-open.org
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