RE: [security-services] Reminder: please review contributor listsand send updates

["Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>]

Being specially noted may be counterproductive if it ends up being
confusing.

Several people, including Marc Andressen and I were noted as major
contributors to the HTTP spec. I have often had people refuse to believe
that I contributed to the draft because they only read the list of people
who sent emails to the mailing list.

So if you do anything different (which may not be a good idea) make sure it
is additional, not in place of.

	Phill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beach, Michael C [mailto:michael.c.beach@boeing.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:43 AM
> To: John Kemp; ext Anthony Nadalin
> Cc: Eve L. Maler; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [security-services] Reminder: please review contributor
> listsand send updates
> 
> 
> I agree with John.  Several folks contributed substantially more time
> and effort above and beyond the general active membership.  
> They deserve
> additional recognition. I believe this industry recognition is a
> substantial motivation for assuming a leadership role in standards
> development.  Without leaders, no standards.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kemp [mailto:john.kemp@nokia.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:20 AM
> To: ext Anthony Nadalin
> Cc: Eve L. Maler; 'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: Re: [security-services] Reminder: please review contributor
> listsand send updates
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> I believe that the entire TC is already acknowledged in a separate
> "acknowledgements" page. I have to admit I don't know what other OASIS
> TCs have done, or whether they even all do the same thing, 
> but it seems
> to me that the following things are actually quite important (based on
> my experience as an editor both here and elsewhere):
> 
> 1) Active contributors of actual text should be acknowledged 
> separately
> from general TC acknowledgements. I think the reasons for that are
> two-fold - i) because contributing actual specification text and/or
> substantial comments on specification text generally requires quite a
> lot of thought over some sustained period of time - thus, I 
> think these
> contributors should be noted for their additional work and ii) I think
> it's also important to tell the public which companies were actively
> involved in writing the specifications.
> 
> 2) If a specification is largely based on a previous specification, I
> think that the previous editors (if different than the 
> current editors)
> should be listed as contributors, as they have basically 
> written most of
> the text previously.
> 
> I certainly agree that the contribution lists should be as 
> inclusive as
> possible. I think also that it is not only possible, but only 
> proper to
> distinguish between those who have submitted substantive or 
> substantial
> pieces of text for the specifications from those who have contributed
> during TC meetings.
> 
> It would certainly be nice, however, if there was some stated (and
> perhaps OASIS-wide) policy on what the editor and contributor lists
> really meant.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - JohnK
> 
> ext Anthony Nadalin wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >I think that the contributor list should apply to the 
> current version 
> >not past versions, so this should be cleaned up. Most other TCs list 
> >all current voting members as contributors since a what  is a 
> >"contribution" is hard to judge. Lots of folks have 
> contributed in the 
> >meetings but not on list or via editing.
> >
> >Anthony Nadalin | work 512.838.0085 | cell 512.289.4122
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >             "Eve L. Maler"
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> >             <Eve.Maler@Sun.CO
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> >             M>
> To 
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> "'security-services@lists.oasis-ope 
> >             08/11/2004 04:53          n.org'"
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> >             PM
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> > cc
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> Subject 
> >                                       [security-services] Reminder:
> 
> >                                       please review 
> contributor lists
> and 
> >                                       send updates
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> >
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> >
> >When I prepare the Committee Draft versions, I will fill in the 
> >Acknowledgments sections of all the specs with the list of current 
> >members (and we will update it at the OASIS Standard stage).  On the 
> >title pages of all the specs, we still have lists of 
> contributors; if 
> >you think your name should appear as a contributor because 
> you either 
> >sent in major comments or contributed some wads of text that were 
> >incorporated by an editor, just let me and Rob know.  And if you 
> >literally edited one of the specs but didn't put your name on as an 
> >editor, let us know that too.  Thanks!
> >
> >(Note to Maryann: I sent you a wrong description of the 
> purpose of the 
> >contributor list earlier; the one above is the correct one..)
> >
> >             Eve
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