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Subject: RE: [security-services] counter proposal on contributor/acknowledgement lists...
Personally I don't wish to be listed as a 'Contributor' to a document based solely on my membership in the TC. It would devalue the efforts of those who actually did contribute. Rob's proposal to 'acknowledge' (in a differentiated manner) my membership seems far more appropriate. On the other hand, I was an editor of an input Liberty spec and Rob's proposal would acknowledge this fact in what seems a fair and appropriate manner as well. Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: John Kemp [mailto:john.kemp@nokia.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:01 AM >To: ext Maryann Hondo >Cc: Philpott, Robert; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: Re: [security-services] counter proposal on >contributor/acknowledgement lists... > > >Although I agree that we are building a community around a >standard, and >we should absolutely acknowledge all members of the TC in doing so >(which we will do in the 'acknowledgements' section), I believe also >that each of the editors would wish to acknowledge those who >especially >contributed text and ideas to the documents. People who did >not directly >edit the documents, but contributed significant pieces of text and/or >comments on the text, and I think Rob's proposal nicely credits those >people, whilst not diminishing the efforts of TC members. > >Cheers, > >- JohnK > >ext Maryann Hondo wrote: > >>I'd like to make a counter proposal. >>While I agree that the editors should be recognized for their >>contributions, >>isn't the goal here to build a community around a standard? >>why not just simplify and follow what wss did, which was to >include all >>the others as "contributors". >>the ietf generally had hundreds of participants where this >group is not so >>large that it would be prohibitive to include everyone. >> >>Maryann >> >> >> >> >>"Philpott, Robert" <rphilpott@rsasecurity.com> >>08/17/2004 09:35 AM >> >> To: <security-services@lists.oasis-open.org> >> cc: >> Subject: [security-services] proposal on >>contributor/acknowledgement lists... >> >> >>I have a proposal on what to do with the contributor/acknowledgement >>lists? it borrows a bit from the guidelines for IETF RFC?s (see >>ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc-editor/instructions2auth ors.txt). > >The ?Editors? list should list those people (and their affiliation) that >authored MOST of the current document text and physically edited the >document drafts. Roughly analogous to a combining of the RFC ?authors? >list and the RFC editor, the list should be quite short (e.g. 5 or fewer). > >The ?Contributors? list should list those ?who deserve significant credit >for the [current] document contents?. I further propose that ?significant >credit? be roughly defined as those that made material contribution to the >spec; that is, they provided some actual or proposed text (but not to the >level of an editor), provided significant editorial review comments, etc. >Note that the contribution wouldn?t necessarily have to be written >contribution (e.g. they may have proposed some important changes during an >official con-call meeting). > >In general, I think that anyone that personally believes they fall in this >contributors? category should probably be listed in this section. But >since I don?t think that someone should be listed if they never really >contributed to the list or in meetings, I recommend that the co-chairs and >spec editors should make the final call on these marginal contributions. >Note that this continues to be a bit subjective, but having a group of >arbiters should keep it ?fair?. > >I further propose that the ?Acknowledgements? section at the back of the >spec be structured to include subsections listing: >A subsection listing current voting members of the SSTC >A subsection for all contributors to previous SAML releases that did not >contribute to the current version >A subsection for any other contributors (e.g. authors of input documents >such as the Liberty specs). > >We?ll discuss it on today?s call? >Rob Philpott >Senior Consulting Engineer >RSA Security Inc. >Tel: 781-515-7115 >Mobile: 617-510-0893 >Fax: 781-515-7020 >mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security-services/members/leave _workgroup.php.
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