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Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revisionof TC Process


In rough terms, the new Member category is the same as the current 
Observer: any eligible person can become a Member, and can participate, 
but has no obligation to participate in order to maintain membership.

The new Voting Member (or more accurately, a Member with voting rights) 
is roughly equivalent to today's Member: the person can participate and 
can vote, and must maintain this status through ongoing participation.

The new Observer is therefore a new class of member, a true lurker, a 
read-only subscriber to the TC's email list.

-Karl



Eduardo Gutentag wrote:
> Any OASIS member will be able to join a TC.
> 
> A TC member will have read-write privileges in the list.
> 
> A TC member can request to become a voting member, in which case, and in
> which case only, the TC member will have to meet attendance criteria in
> order to continue being a voting member. (IOW, if the attendace criteria
> are not met the member reverts to general non-voting status, without leaving
> the TC).
> 
> All TC members will be subject to the IPR Policy as it applies to the
> TC's mode.
> 
> Any OASIS member can become a TC Observer. Such Observer will have
> only read privileges, and no obligations under the IPR Policy as it
> applies to the TC's mode.
> 
> Because becoming a TC member now has clear IPR implications and obligations,
> it would be a bad idea to convert people automatically from observers to
> members. This must be done in a proactive manner, and with the approval, in
> the case of organizational members, of the organization's representative.
> (In that sense [and in that sense only] this is similar to accepted policy
> in other organizations, e.g. W3C)
> 
> We really need an FAQ. I thought there was one already out for review,
> but obviously I was wrong...
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/12/2004 04:56 PM, Newcomer, Eric wrote:
> 
>> Eduardo,
>>
>> Do you mean that the new process doesn't change the ability of anyone 
>> to join a TC and participate as a non-voting member?  So the proposed 
>> change is simply a renaming of the type of member, not the elimination 
>> of a membership category?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eduardo Gutentag [mailto:Eduardo.Gutentag@Sun.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:26 PM
>> To: Philpott, Robert
>> Cc: karl.best@oasis-open.org; chairs@lists.oasis-open.org;
>> security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed
>> revision of TC Process
>>
>>
>> But Rob, if you read the new process carefully, you will discover that
>> you can be a TC member without being a voting member (that is, you can
>> be a non-voting TC member without having to meet attendance criteria),
>> thus being able to contribute to your heart's content as current Observers
>> do.
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/2004 03:25 PM, Philpott, Robert wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to express serious concerns with the proposed change to the
>>> TC process that means that TC observers would no longer be able to post
>>> to the TC's mailing list.
>>>
>>> From the current process: "An Observer may participate in TC discussions
>>> and post email messages to the TC list, but may not vote and does not
>>> need to maintain attendance."
>>>
>>> From the proposed process: "Observer" (or "TC Observer") is an Eligible
>>> Person who is subscribed to the TC email list, and may attend TC
>>> meetings, but is not allowed to participate in TC email list
>>> discussions, participate or speak in TC meetings, or make Contributions
>>> to the TC. The process for becoming an Observer is defined in the
>>> section "TC Membership and Participation".
>>>
>>> I STRONGLY disagree with making this change.  The SSTC has over 260
>>> members, of which 40-50 are active voting members.  However, our TC
>>> regularly receives valuable input on email discussion topics from
>>> members that don't have currently active voting status.  These postings
>>> are from folks such as those in other TC's that monitor our list because
>>> those TC's have some dependency on ours. Requiring folks to find some
>>> other mechanism to provide their input simply throws up barriers in
>>> front of them and will in all likelihood result in us not receiving that
>>> input at all.
>>>
>>> The input from these members is very important to us.  I believe this to
>>> be a bad change of policy that goes against the open, free exchange of
>>> ideas that we rely on.
>>>
>>> Rob Philpott
>>> Senior Consulting Engineer RSA Security Inc. Tel: 781-515-7115 
>>> Mobile: 617-510-0893 Fax: 781-515-7020 mailto:rphilpott@rsasecurity.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org]
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:10 AM
>>>> To: members
>>>> Subject: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC
>>>
>>>
>>> Process
>>>
>>>
>>>> OASIS members:
>>>>
>>>> You're aware that the OASIS Board of Directors has been working on a
>>>> revision of the OASIS IPR Policy, and you have had an opportunity to
>>>> give feedback on that proposed revision.
>>>>
>>>> The Board has also been working on a revision of the OASIS TC Process,
>>>> the document that governs the creation and operation of TCs at OASIS,
>>>> and the advancement and approval of the work they do. This revision
>>>> includes changes suggested by TC chairs, the Technical Advisory Board
>>>> (TAB), and other members. It also includes changes required to support
>>>> the new IPR Policy; because these two documents rely on each other
>>>
>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>>
>>>> must be revised, approved, and become effective at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> The Board has approved an OASIS member review of the revised Process;
>>>> this review will start today and go until 10 November. A draft of the
>>>> revised TC Process document approved for member review by the Board is
>>>> found at
>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
>>>> only/download.php/9623/TC%20Process%2020041007.pdf.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A document summarizing the changes from the current Process is at
>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/members-
>>>> only/download.php/9621/Process%20revision%20summary.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Please send your comments in regards to these proposed changes to
>>>> tcproc-member-review@lists.oasis-open.org by 10 November, so that the
>>>> Board can consider your comments, make changes to this draft, and have
>>>> the Process document ready to be effective at the same time as the new
>>>> IPR Policy.
>>>>
>>>> -Karl
>>>>
>>>> =================================================================
>>>> Karl F. Best
>>>> Vice President, OASIS
>>>> office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
>>>> karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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