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Subject: Minutes of the SSTC Concall, May 22, 2007
Minutes SSTC Concall, May 22, 2007 Dial in info: +1 865 673 6950; Access code: 270-9441# Roll Call & Agenda Review Attendance details at message end. We need a volunteer to take minutes. Abi to take minutes next call (for real this time) Hal proposed doc formatting discussion in other business. 1. Approve minutes from May 8 with attendance http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200705/msg00025.h tml Accepted. 2. Administrative 2.1. New Ballot to approve documents as a Committee in progress Hal - New ballot ends tonight. We do have sufficient votes for it to pass. No harm in additional votes. 2.2 Reminder need attestations of successful use Hal - as of June 1st new rules require that you must attest to use against a specific conformance clause. Scott - but that is as of June 1, and these specs are grandfathered in. 2.3 Need Errata editor Hal - looking for an errata editor to replace Eve and her faithful service. We need a volunteer... 3. Public Reviews 3.1 60 Public review of 4 specs (AI#290) - status Hal - editors: what is the status? Paul - waiting on confirmation that we had met the requirements. Hal - we need to put together a list Scott - But we need to solve URI issue. Consider docs resubmitted as best effort to the standard. As long as URI issue is sorted out. Brian - talked with Mary and URI can be whatever we want, within the guidelines. Send her an email to confirm it. Then she will place docs in the appropriate place on the docs.oasis-open.org site. Hal - just put the URI in there and admin will take care of it. Scott - links are to doc.oasis not kavi. Hal - for each set of docs, send chairs a link to current docs. Paul - will aggregate the links to the docs and send to chairs. ** new AI *** 3.2 Public Review of Errata Document (AI#291) - status Hal - Brian inquired and OASIS basically said that there must be a clean public review. And we have two issues 1) a typo. 2) new errata item that has been reported and not processed. Two choices: fix typo and vote now? Or process new errata and include it? Brian - also editorial issues. Need to do editorial changes before we submit. Suggest that we fix typo and do editorial changes and submit. Hal - Need volunteer to do this? Hopefully by next call. Scott - if it is just the formatting stuff, I can do it by next call. Hal - vote to move errata to public review once changes are made. Scott - pending someone to officially take over errata, will take it. Hal - We need a full majority vote to public review. The typo issue can be found at http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200704/msg00034.htm l Hal - need 3 votes: One: vote to committee draft Two: affirm that there is no substantive change Three: move to 15 day public review Scott move Eve second No objections to unanimous consent. Scott - where to put the errata? Eve - put it in the 2.0 folder, not the post 2.0 folder. 4. New Documents 4.1 Updated WSDL uploaded to document repository http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-services/200705/msg00030.h tml Hal - same doc as posted to mailing list? Greg - yes. Hal - what are we going to do with this doc over time? Don't think we want to take it to a standard but maybe to committee spec? Greg - seems reasonable. 5. Other Business Scott - create the post 2.0 folder for these new docs. Hal - document what we are doing on the wiki Hal - document formats, Scott posted something re his action item recently. Hal gives a short history on formatting. TCs have taken different approaches and even had their own format. There is pressure to have XHTML because of access and uniformity. Wanted to require TC to provide editable format. Also there was a group that wanted something, that ended up being PDF, that would have fixed line numbers. Now XHTML has become a problem. Current policy is to try and produce good XHTML but if it is too difficult, then HTML is ok. ? - Goals are laudable, but are they written down somewhere? Hal - yes, a document that changed over time. Not sure where it is, Hal to have action item to find it and post it to the list. Scott - my concern is that all of this must go though Mary or admin every time. Hal - agreed, one concern is how administrators spend their time. This and IPR have taken more time than expected. Scott - we need a consensus about level of quality that is sufficient and is solely editor driven. Hal - will pass that along to OAISIS Scott - Is the goal readability or XHTML? Greg - can XSLT help? Scott - Doubtful. The best we've don't here is save as html and then tidy it up. Readability vs. valid XHTML, we need to know what the goal is. Hal - Will try and clarify intend. Hal - the other issue was about conformance criteria. There is a request from this TC and others about conformance clauses. Hal to take action to post a link to conformance clause requirements and a link to how to communicate with the TAB. ** new AIs ** Scott - we'll need to address this with SAML. Hal - my understanding is that SAML 2 meets the criteria. Now attestation will be to a conformance clause. Scott - Suggest that conformance statement should be relative to an errata version. This would allow for substantive changes in errata. Hal - but you can't make such changes. Scott - but this would be a loophole but is consistent with the language. Hal - but the intent of errata is to not introduce changes that are not interoperable. Scott - but an erratum isn't useful when held to this standard. Or we need a way to produce minor revision of the specs. Hal - Scott, helpful if you could put down your suggestions. FYI, there is a TC that is being formed around the issue of conformance. We are looking for practical feedback and not trying to make everyone's life is harder. General agreement that more discussion is warranted. 6. AIs #0282: AuthnContextDecl and AuthnContextDeclRef Confusion Owner: Eric Tiffany Status: Open Assigned: 2007-03-27 Due: --- No change. #0283: Change final arrows to solid in Tech Overview diagrams throughout. Owner: Paul Madsen Status: Open Assigned: 2007-03-27 Due: --- Waiting until after formatting issues are resolved and after public review. #0285: Send out list of nearly finished specs which may require attestation of use Owner: Paul Madsen Status: Open Assigned: 2007-04-11 Due: 2007-04-24 It is the 4 specs. CLOSED. #0286: Research the use of LDAP language tags Owner: Bob Morgan Status: Open Assigned: 2007-04-11 Due: 2007-04-24 Leave open until material is circulated #0290: Request 60 day Public review of 4 specs (see comment) Owner: Hal Lockhart Status: Open Assigned: 2007-04-11 Due: 2007-04-24 #0291: Request Public Review of Errata Document Owner: Hal Lockhart Status: Open Assigned: 2007-04-11 Due: 2007-04-24 #0294: Propose text and schema change for NameIDMappingResponse errata issue Owner: Greg Whitehead Status: Open Assigned: 2007-05-10 Due: --- Just posted to list before call, CLOSED. #0295: Chairs to discuss Document URL issue/procedure with OASIS admins Owner: Brian Campbell Status: Open Assigned: 2007-05-10 Due: 2007-05-16 CLOSED. #0296: Investigate specifics of the OASIS XHTML doc format requirement Owner: Scott Cantor Status: Open Assigned: 2007-05-10 Due: --- CLOSED. #0297: Discuss possibility of exception for Approved Errata Doc with OASIS Owner: Brian Campbell Status: Open Assigned: 2007-05-10 Due: --- CLOSED. Attendance Details Attendance of Voting Members Steve Anderson BMC Software Abbie Barbir Nortel Brian Campbell Ping Identity Carolina Canales-Valenzuela Ericsson Scott Cantor Internet2 Peter Davis NeuStar George Fletcher AOL Heather Hinton IBM Jeff Hodges NeuStar Ari Kermaier Oracle Hal Lockhart BEA Systems, Inc Paul Madsen NTT Corporation Eve Maler Sun Microsystems Prateek Mishra Oracle Ashish Patel France Telecom Rob Philpott EMC Corporation David Staggs Veteran's Health Admin Greg Whitehead Hewlett-Packard Company Emily Xu Sun Microsystems Attendance of Non-Voting Members Conor P. Cahill Intel Anil Saldhana Red Hat Membership Status Changes Paul Toal Capgemini- Withdrew 5/10/2007 Anil Saldhana Red Hat - Granted voting status after 5/22/2007 call Chris Laskowski Booz Allen Hamilton - Lost voting status after 5/22/2007 call
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