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Subject: OASIS SSTC con call minutes 2009-08-25



Let me know if any corrections are needed.

  - RL "Bob"

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SSTC Conference Call
August 25, 2009, 12:00pm ET

** Summary

  * XSPA spec to be submitted to OASIS for approval as Full Standard.
  * Several docs (metadata, holder-of-key) were approved by ballot as
      Committee Specifications; Scott and Hal will work with Mary on
      getting proper new versions in the right place.
  * SAML 2 token profile for IMI has been moved to IMI TC.

** Detailed notes

1. Roll Call & Agenda Review

2. Need a volunteer to take minutes

RL "Bob", your humble scribe

3. Approval of minutes from last meeting (28 July 2009)
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/email/archives/200907/msg00041.html

Approved without objection.

4. AIs & progress on current work-items:

  (a) Current electronic ballots:
        XSPA Profile of SAML for Healthcare V1.0
        http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/ballots.php

DavidS: there was a question about XSPA schema. Schema work is being done
   in XSPA TC, so presence of schema is not an issue for advancement of the
   XSPA spec in the SSTC.
DavidS:  motion in 3 parts:
   (1) confirm that schema fragments in document are valid
   (2) assert that there have been no substantive changes to spec since
       adoption as a committee spec
   (3) propose submission of XSPA spec to OASIS membership for approval as
       full OASIS standard
Duane: second
Discussion:
TomS:  any evidence that schema fragments are valid?
Duane:  yes, these schema were successfully used in HIMSS interop by
   several implementations
TomS:  linked in wiki?
Duane:  yes
Hal:  submission requires attestations, 4 have been submitted

  **  Approved without objection.

Hal:  <explains OASIS approval process>
   need material on relationship of this spec to others
DavidS:  Duane and I will help prepare this

  (b) Status of past (closed) ballots:
        SAML V2.0 Attribute Extensions Version 1.0
        SAML V2.0 Metadata Extension for Entity Attributes Version 1.0
        SAML V2.0 Metadata Interoperability Profile Version 1.0
        SAML V2.0 Holder-of-Key Web Browser SSO Profile Version 1.0
        SAML V2.0 Holder-of-Key Assertion Profile Version 1.0

Scott:  ballots passed, but ... process seems to have problems.  Prepared
   CS versions, but Mary did this also, without some needed tweaks, so need
   to rationalize.  HoK documents are in similar state.  Would be best if
   Mary can apply fixes to Scott/Tom versions.
Hal:  process is indeed in flux.  Will work with Mary to clarify.
Scott:  will work with Mary to get clean versions in place.  Need
   attestations to move forward in any case.

  (c) 15-Day review of sstc-saml-approved-errata-2.0-draft-49 (action for 
Hal)

Hal still needs to check on this.

  (d) Progress on getting Jira instance for SSTC (Scott).

No progress to report.

  (e) Duane to add a page for the XSPA page in the SAML wiki.
      http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/ballots.php

Duane:  still needs to be finished, probably today.

  (f) Kerberos Attribute Profile (Josh/Thomas).

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/download.php/33861/sstc-saml-attribute-kerberos-01.odt

Josh:  new doc posted incorporating various comments.  Any review?
Scott:  there are several questions in the text?
Josh:  yes, mostly administrative
Josh:  discussion on list about Kerberos Token Profile, strawman proposal
   sent
Scott:  seems elegant, and to match semantics of core elements used.
Josh:  additional question about using Kerberos to establish trust between
   SAML entities.  Might imply using KeyInfo ...
Scott:  KeyInfo extension seems clearer, though less usable by existing
   implementations
Thomas:  planning a document submission?
Josh:  will continue to work on two approaches in parallel, see where they
   go

  (g) Expressing Identity Assurance profile for SAML2.0 (LOA)  (Bob Morgan)

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/security/download.php/33546/sstc-saml-assurance-profile-draft-00.pdf

RLBob:  will submit new version shortly, adding conformance section for
   attribute profile

  (h) Delegation Condition Extension Profile (part of item (g))  (Scott)

Scott:  not part of assurance, will rev doc based on public review 
comments.

5. New work items

Scott:  SAML 2 token profile for IMI has been moved to IMI TC, so no
   longer a SSTC item.

JeffH:  now with PayPal, problems renewing OASIS membership as individual,
   PayPal not currently an OASIS member, so discussions happening about
   what to do.  This affects Eve Maler's participation too.
Anil:  suggest that OASIS do something like "invited experts" as other
   groups do.
Hal:  noted, but seems unlikely to happen.

6. Assorted threads on saml-dev/comment list
  - SHA-256 discussion

Scott:  this is one among several errata, didn't get chance to submit PEs
   yet.  Can provide erratum to core, more significant question is whether
   to update SAML conformance doc.  XML DSig will be recommending SHA-256.
   Could mean new conformance class with new algorithm list.
Bob:  raises issue about needing metadata support for algorithm
   transition, so entities can state what algorithms they support or 
require
Scott:  deeper question is whole issue of authentication of entities to
   one another, eg Basic Auth or Kerberos could be used, not just PKI
   algorithms.

  - LOA related discussion

No further discussion.

Next call Sep 22.

** Attendance

Voting Members:
John Bradley     Individual
Scott Cantor     Internet2
Nathan Klingenstein     Internet2
Bob Morgan     Internet2
Thomas Hardjono     M.I.T.
Tom Scavo     National Center for Supercomputing Applica...
Ari Kermaier     Oracle Corporation
Hal Lockhart     Oracle Corporation
Anil Saldhana     Red Hat
Kent Spaulding     Skyworth TTG Holdings Limited
Duane DeCouteau     Veterans Health Administration
David Staggs     Veterans Health Administration

Members:
Joshua Howlett     Individual

Observers:
Ganesh Ananthakrishnan      Avaya, Inc.

Quorum: 12 out of 18 voting members (63%)
Status: Emily Xu (Sun) and Kyle Meadors (Drummond Group) lose voting 
status





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