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Subject: RE: Draft Minutes SSTC Telecon (Tue 29 May 2012)


Here is the list of attendees that I captured on the 5/29 SSTC call:

Internet2     Scott Cantor     Secretary
Ericsson     Jonas Hogberg     Observer
Oracle     Hal Lockhart     Secretary
Red Hat     Anil Saldhana     Secretary
Jericho Systems  David Staggs  Member
Nokia     Frederick Hirsch     Voting Member
MIT     Thomas Hardjono     Chair.

Please let me know if I forgot anyone.

/thomas/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com [mailto:Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:42 PM
> To: security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com; ndk@internet2.edu; Thomas Hardjono
> Subject: Draft Minutes SSTC Telecon (Tue 29 May 2012)
> 
> Draft Minutes SSTC Conference Call, Tuesday 29 May 2012, 12:00pm ET
> 
> >
> > AGENDA:
> >
> > 1. Roll Call & Agenda Review.
> 
> To be added.
> 
> >
> > 2. Need a volunteer to take minutes.
> 
> Frederick Hirsch volunteered to take minutes
> 
> 
> > 3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
> >
> >   - Minutes from SSTC Call on 15 May 2012:
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201205/msg00004.html
> 
> David Staggs moved to approve minutes, Second Scott.
> 
> Minutes approved and accepted.
> 
> > 4. AIs & progress update on current work-items:
> >
> >  (a) Current electronic ballots: (none)
> 
> no ballots open
> 
> >
> >  (b) Status/notes regarding past ballots: (none)
> 
> no ballots open
> 
> Reminder Board election.
> 
> >  (c) SAML2.0 Approved Errata 0.5
> >      - Status: published
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201205/msg00008.html
> 
> Has been published. No question or discussion.
> 
> >
> >  (d) SAML Metadata Extensions for Registration and Pub Information
> V1.0
> >      - Status: published
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201205/msg00007.html
> 
> Has been published. No question or discussion.
> 
> >
> >  (e) SAML 2.0.1 and Security Considerations doc
> >      - Status: SSTC agrees to proceed on this in 2012.
> >      - Issues: Should metadata and trust exchange frameworks
> >                be made mandatory.
> >      - Status: Scott has emailed a proposal to the list.
> >      - AI:  Scott to start a "SAML2.x Planning Wiki Page" with
> >             list of items and/or changes to go into SAML2.x
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/security-
> services/201203/msg00011.html
> >
> 
> Scott posted link to wiki, summarized discussion by topic and degree of
> agreement. Some items are open discussion points. Please review and
> update page as needed.
> 
> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/security/SAML2Revision
> 
> Goal is to effectively define agreed goals for next version.
> 
> Scott: In agreement section "compatibility" used instead of
> "conformance" due to existing implementations.
> 
> Scott: Items that are agreed have been discussed on a call, items in
> the close to agreement section have not been agreed on a call, even if
> not controversial. The list of profiles is those that appeared to have
> advocates in the group, or which might offer simplification.
> Expectation is to reference XML Signature 1.1 and XML Encryption 1.1 as
> part of update, looks like the schedules may align.
> 
> Thomas: what are dependencies on HTML5 or other web standards?
> 
> Scott: HTML5 progressing, not waiting for HTTP update..
> 
> Scott: it is valuable to also be clear on what we have chosen not to
> include in 2.1/2.0.1
> 
> Scott: Metadata is of concern to me so I documented this in detail; we
> may need to revisit metadata use cases to drive interest
> 
> Scott: A lot of implementation questions focus on some of the core
> requirements around strings, dates, URIs, and so forth, and their XML
> representations. We can deal with this by being clearer in the
> specification.
> This matters for metadata, as validation occurs often, so we need to be
> very clear, and tighten constraints in the XML Schema for metadata. My
> opinion is that we could do it so that normative behavior of the
> specification, the lexical space of allowed documents, stays the same
> even if schema is changed to provide better error reporting.
> 
> Hal: focusing on SSO details, some questions
> 
> Scott:  I understand some of those, will document
> 
> Hal: there are coding tricks such as packaging post message with
> javascript as well, to use javascript against post, sometimes needed,
> but not documented
> 
> Scott: this was out of scope of the binding....
> 
> Hal: seems like an implementation choice that should be documented.
> 
> Scott: Some of this could be implementation guidelines, but not sure it
> is needed
> 
> Frederick: could this be an item for the wiki?
> 
> Hal: I can add it
> 
> Hal: only part of browser behavior is defined by RFC, there are also
> unwritten behaviors
> 
> Scott: suggest voting members send support or concerns about moving
> "close to agreement" to "agreement" section, also to review other
> sections
> 
> Thomas: what about those no longer on SSTC mailing list
> 
> Scott: we can share proposal once we have more agreement, they can
> respond via feedback form
> 
> >
> >  (f)  SSTC Webinar:
> >      - Proposed topic: scope of work for the 2.0.1 spec.
> >      - AI: Thomas to email Dee to suggest dates (around the 1st week
> of
> >            June on the planned work in 2.x).
> >            Audience assumed to be SAML-knowledgeable.
> >      - Status: need further group discussion & planning.
> 
> Thomas: webinar useful for outreach for 2.x, as long as clear on our
> plans
> 
> Hal: Wiki provides good basis for webinar, as long as clear on status
> 
> Thomas: planning for end of June?
> 
> Scott: need more discussion on list first
> 
> Thomas: could move later
> 
> Scott: or share where we are at that time
> 
> Hal: we are close, want feedback about items under consideration
> 
> >
> > 5. Assorted mail items:
> >
> > 6. Other items:
> 
> No other issues of concern. No other business.
> 
> >
> > 7. Next SSTC Call:
> >   - Tuesday 12 June 2012.
> >
> > ______________________________________________________


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