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Subject: [Fwd: RE: Possible new TC]


Good feedback from Mary McRae on our Background and related work document!

~Mick

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Possible new TC
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:22:44 -0500
From: Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Reply-To: <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Organisation: OASIS
To: 'Mick Kerrigan' <mick.kerrigan@deri.at>
References: <4746ECD6.6020706@deri.at>	 
<19d3fb1c0711230855u66a4dbf8j6552f403a92ac52a@mail.gmail.com>	 
<474712BF.2040301@deri.at>	 
<474f4fc3.34062c0a.0921.ffffbb9f@mx.google.com> 
<19d3fb1c0801021802p14d645e6w4d87d4f3e4a343c8@mail.gmail.com> 
<477CAF2B.2070408@deri.at> <477cf1ec.1ab17e0a.6d02.47f3@mx.google.com> 
<478E1932.80400@deri.at> <478e1cff.2287460a.4541.3598@mx.google.com> 
<478F1649.2050809@deri.at>

Oh, very nice document! It should definitely be in Kavi if not already, and
should probably be noted on the TC's public home page as well.

Regards,

Mary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:48 AM
> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: Possible new TC
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Its very much a "some background stuff you may want/need to know" and
> was created mainly to keep the main documents that we aim for as
> standards clear from many pages of related content. So I think we are
> squarely talking about your "Informational Documents", which are on hold.
> 
> I attach the latest draft of the document. I think we can probably wait
> until the issue is resolved within OASIS
> 
> Regards,
> 
> ~Mick
> 
> Mary McRae wrote:
> > Hi Mick,
> >
> >   Right now there is only a single approval path- Committee Draft, Public
> > Review, Committee Spec, OASIS Standard. The Board Process Committee
> created an
> > alternative path for "Informational Documents" but this is on hold
> pending some
> > requisite changes to the IPR Policy as well as the TC Process Policy. I
> don't
> > have a timeline on how long the matter will take to resolve. We do have a
> white
> > paper template, if that's appropriate. Typically the TC votes to approve
> these
> > kinds of things as Committee Draft and they're considered "done."
> >
> >   Feel free to send me the document and I'll be happy to provide further
> input.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:48 AM
> >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >> Subject: Re: Possible new TC
> >>
> >> Hi Mary,
> >>
> >> Just one more thing. The Semantic-ex has a related work document we
> >> would like to make final and some sort of committee spec. What is the
> >> procedure that must be followed in order to do this.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> ~Mick
> >>
> >> Mary McRae wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the update!
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I'll be at a face-to-face meeting all next week to decide on the
> >> program
> >>> for Symposium. See you there!
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> Mary
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at]
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:47 AM
> >>>> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Jamie Clark
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Mary,
> >>>>
> >>>> Sadly a decision was made over my head to delay the submission of the
> >>>> charter. I actually have completed the charter but the decision has
> been
> >>>> taken to hold off on the creation of a TC until after the projects
> have
> >>>> all started and have gained some maturity. In some ways this is good,
> as
> >>>> we will have a much clearer idea of the scope of the eventual TC,
> while
> >>>> in others I think we are missing a good opportunity. I will keep you
> >>>> appraised of any changes in our plans.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you so much for all your assistance, and I wish you a happy and
> >>>> prosperous 2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Mick
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S. Hopefully we can catch up at the next Symposium in Santa Clara!
> >>>>
> >>>> Mary McRae wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Mick,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Happy New Year!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   I just wanted to touch base to see if any progress has been made in
> >>>>> putting the charter together or if you're in need of further
> >> assistance.
> >>>>>   Don't hesitate to contact me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All the best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mary
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 29, 2007 6:48 PM, Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >>>>> <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Hi Mick,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      The process is pretty straightforward. You have two
> alternatives:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     1. If you already have a pretty solid idea of the scope of work
> and
> >>>>>     sufficient
> >>>>>     supporters, you can start directly by submitting a draft charter
> to
> >>>>>     myself.
> >>>>>     Prior to the formal submission, you can pass a draft along to
> Jamie
> >>>>>     and myself -
> >>>>>     we'll review and provide feedback. (TC Process:
> >>>>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#s2.2)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     2. If you have a general idea but are looking for a group of
> people
> >>>>>     to help
> >>>>>     refine the goals and scope, then you can start by requesting the
> >>>>>     formation of a
> >>>>>     discussion group. Discussion groups are open for 90 days and are
> >> not
> >>>>>     limited to
> >>>>>     OASIS members - i.e. anyone can join. The only topic allowed to
> be
> >>>>>     discussed is
> >>>>>     the actual goals of the TC and drafting the charter; that is, no
> >>>> actual
> >>>>>     technical work can be conducted.
> >>>>>     (TC Process: http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/process.php#s2.1)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     You can see actual charter submissions by reviewing the
> >>>>>     oasis-charter-discuss
> >>>>>     email archives:
> >>>>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter-
> >>>> discuss/200711/msg00000.html
> >>>>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter-
> >>>> discuss/200709/msg00000.html
> >>>>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter-
> >>>> discuss/200705/msg00008.html
> >>>>>     <http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter-
> >>>> discuss/200705/msg00008.html>
> >>>>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter-
> >>>> discuss/200705/msg00000.html
> >>>>>     As far as the tutorial, the call for presentations is open NOW -
> >>>>>     I'll look
> >>>>>     forward to its arrival!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     All the best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Mary
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     > -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>     > From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at
> >>>>>     <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>]
> >>>>>     > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:50 PM
> >>>>>     > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-
> open.org>
> >>>>>     > Subject: Re: Jamie Clark
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > Okay Mary, thats great. As I mentioned I am the secretary of
> the
> >>>>>     > semantic-ex TC, I am also a researcher in Europe at what was
> the
> >>>>>     Digital
> >>>>>     > Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) Innsbruck and has recently
> >>>> become
> >>>>>     > the Semantic Technology Institute (STI) Innsbruck[1][2]. STI
> has
> >>>>>     already
> >>>>>     > become a large organisation with some of the leading semantics
> >>>>>     research
> >>>>>     > bodies in Europe as members.
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > I am not sure if you are aware, but the latest round of funding
> >> for
> >>>>>     > European Research projects has just completed, and STI
> Innsbruck
> >>>>>     amongst
> >>>>>     > other institutes in STI have done very well from the funding.
> >>>>>     Crucially
> >>>>>     > in many of our projects we have a sizeable budget for each
> >> partner
> >>>> in
> >>>>>     > the project towards standardization. We wish to ensure that
> this
> >>>>>     money
> >>>>>     > is not wasted and thus wish to start a new technical committee
> >>>> focused
> >>>>>     > on the goals and aims of a number of research projects. This
> >>>> technical
> >>>>>     > committee will be backed by a large number of players
> (crucially
> >>>>>     IBM and
> >>>>>     > SAP from the industry side and almost every major semantic
> >>>> scientific
> >>>>>     > player in Europe from the research side). These organisations
> >> will
> >>>>>     each
> >>>>>     > have budget within this project that can only be spent on
> >>>>>     contributing
> >>>>>     > to standardization through this new OASIS TC, thus ensuring a
> >> high
> >>>>>     level
> >>>>>     > of participation in TC activities. Of course the TC will be
> open
> >> to
> >>>>>     > membership from those outside the projects, especially to
> >> research
> >>>>>     and
> >>>>>     > industry in the states.
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > The technical committee will focus on standardizing an
> >>>> infrastructure
> >>>>>     > for open and scalable semantics on the Web, which essentially
> >>>>>     addresses
> >>>>>     > the problem of scaling the work from the semantic-ex TC up to a
> >> Web
> >>>>>     > scale along with some orthogonal issues related to scalable
> >>>> reasoning,
> >>>>>     > amongst other things. Can you make me aware of the process that
> >> we
> >>>>>     need
> >>>>>     > to go through in order to make this new TC a reality. I assume
> >> the
> >>>>>     first
> >>>>>     > step is to prepare a charter? The currently proposed name for
> the
> >>>> TC
> >>>>>     > would be the Open Scalable Semantics (OSS) TC.
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > Regards,
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > ~Mick
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > P.S. One other thing I wanted to let you know is that we would
> >>>>>     love to
> >>>>>     > give a tutorial at the next OASIS Symposium on Semantic
> Business
> >>>>>     > Processes (fitting in with the Composability aspect of the
> >>>>>     Symposium). I
> >>>>>     > am currently working with a number of others to complete a
> >> tutorial
> >>>>>     > proposal, which we will submit before the 15th of December
> >>>>>     deadline. You
> >>>>>     > may be aware that we have already presented a tutorial in 2005
> >> and
> >>>> I
> >>>>>     > personally present in 2006. Both tutorials were quite
> successful
> >> in
> >>>>>     > introducing semantics to OASIS and we hope to continue the
> >>>> tradition
> >>>>>     > this year.
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > [1] http://www.sti2.org
> >>>>>     > [2] http://www.sti2.at
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > Mary McRae wrote:
> >>>>>     > > Hi Mick,
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >   Not sure why Jamie isn't answering. I'll be happy to help
> in
> >>>>>     any way I
> >>>>>     > > can ... feel free to ask away!
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > > All the best,
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > > Mary
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > > On 11/23/07, * Mick Kerrigan* <mick.kerrigan@deri.at
> >>>>>     <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>
> >>>>>     > > <mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at
> <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>>>
> >>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     Hi Mary,
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     I am the secretary of the OASIS semantic-ex TC and I have
> >>>>>     been trying
> >>>>>     > to
> >>>>>     > >     reach Jamie Clark for about a month with a number of
> >> issues.
> >>>>>     I was
> >>>>>     > just
> >>>>>     > >     wondering if you could discovery if my mails are
> >>>>>     accidentally going
> >>>>>     > >     into
> >>>>>     > >     his spam folder as Jamie is normally so quick at
> responses
> >> :)
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     Essentially I have a number of urgent issues to discuss
> >> with
> >>>>>     Jamie
> >>>>>     > >     regarding the semantic-ex TC as well as the establishment
> >> of
> >>>>>     a new TC
> >>>>>     > on
> >>>>>     > >     Open Scalable Semantic (OSS).
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     Regards,
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     ~Mick
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >     --
> >>>>>     > >     Mick Kerrigan
> >>>>>     > >     Researcher (SEE Cluster)
> >>>>>     > >     Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
> >>>>>     > >     Universität Innsbruck, Austria
> >>>>>     > >     -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>     > >     E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at
> >> <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>
> >>>>>     <mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>>
> >>>>>     > >     Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/
> >>>>>     > >     -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > > --
> >>>>>     > > Mary P McRae
> >>>>>     > > Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
> >>>>>     > > mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> >>>>>     <mailto: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-
> >>>> open.org>>
> >>>>>     > > voip: 603.232.9090
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>     > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security
> >>>>>     System.
> >>>>>     > > For more information please visit
> >>>> http://www.messagelabs.com/email
> >>>>>     > >
> >>>>>
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>     >
> >>>>>     > --
> >>>>>     > Mick Kerrigan
> >>>>>     > Researcher (SEE Cluster)
> >>>>>     > Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
> >>>>>     > Universität Innsbruck, Austria
> >>>>>     > -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>     > E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>
> >>>>>     > Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/
> >>>>>     > -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Mary P McRae
> >>>>> Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
> >>>>> mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> >>>>> voip: 603.232.9090
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mick Kerrigan
> >>>> Researcher (SEE Cluster)
> >>>> Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI)
> >>>> Universität Innsbruck, Austria
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at
> >>>> Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Mick Kerrigan
> >> Researcher (SEE Cluster)
> >> Semantic Technology Institute (STI)
> >> Universität Innsbruck, Austria
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> T +43 (0) 512 507 6463
> >> F +43 (0) 512 507 9872
> >> E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at
> >> W http://see.sti2.at/mick/
> >> -----------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Mick Kerrigan
> Researcher (SEE Cluster)
> Semantic Technology Institute (STI)
> Universität Innsbruck, Austria
> -----------------------------------
> T +43 (0) 512 507 6463
> F +43 (0) 512 507 9872
> E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at
> W http://see.sti2.at/mick/
> -----------------------------------




-- 
Mick Kerrigan
Researcher (SEE Cluster)
Semantic Technology Institute (STI)
Universität Innsbruck, Austria
-----------------------------------
T +43 (0) 512 507 6463
F +43 (0) 512 507 9872
E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at
W http://see.sti2.at/mick/
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