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Subject: [Fwd: RE: Possible new TC]
Good feedback from Mary McRae on our Background and related work document! ~Mick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Possible new TC Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:22:44 -0500 From: Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> Reply-To: <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> Organisation: OASIS To: 'Mick Kerrigan' <mick.kerrigan@deri.at> References: <4746ECD6.6020706@deri.at> <19d3fb1c0711230855u66a4dbf8j6552f403a92ac52a@mail.gmail.com> <474712BF.2040301@deri.at> <474f4fc3.34062c0a.0921.ffffbb9f@mx.google.com> <19d3fb1c0801021802p14d645e6w4d87d4f3e4a343c8@mail.gmail.com> <477CAF2B.2070408@deri.at> <477cf1ec.1ab17e0a.6d02.47f3@mx.google.com> <478E1932.80400@deri.at> <478e1cff.2287460a.4541.3598@mx.google.com> <478F1649.2050809@deri.at> Oh, very nice document! It should definitely be in Kavi if not already, and should probably be noted on the TC's public home page as well. Regards, Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:48 AM > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: Possible new TC > > Hi Mary, > > Its very much a "some background stuff you may want/need to know" and > was created mainly to keep the main documents that we aim for as > standards clear from many pages of related content. So I think we are > squarely talking about your "Informational Documents", which are on hold. > > I attach the latest draft of the document. I think we can probably wait > until the issue is resolved within OASIS > > Regards, > > ~Mick > > Mary McRae wrote: > > Hi Mick, > > > > Right now there is only a single approval path- Committee Draft, Public > > Review, Committee Spec, OASIS Standard. The Board Process Committee > created an > > alternative path for "Informational Documents" but this is on hold > pending some > > requisite changes to the IPR Policy as well as the TC Process Policy. I > don't > > have a timeline on how long the matter will take to resolve. We do have a > white > > paper template, if that's appropriate. Typically the TC votes to approve > these > > kinds of things as Committee Draft and they're considered "done." > > > > Feel free to send me the document and I'll be happy to provide further > input. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mary > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at] > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:48 AM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Subject: Re: Possible new TC > >> > >> Hi Mary, > >> > >> Just one more thing. The Semantic-ex has a related work document we > >> would like to make final and some sort of committee spec. What is the > >> procedure that must be followed in order to do this. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> ~Mick > >> > >> Mary McRae wrote: > >>> Thanks for the update! > >>> > >>> Yes, I'll be at a face-to-face meeting all next week to decide on the > >> program > >>> for Symposium. See you there! > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> > >>> Mary > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at] > >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:47 AM > >>>> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >>>> Subject: Re: Jamie Clark > >>>> > >>>> Hi Mary, > >>>> > >>>> Sadly a decision was made over my head to delay the submission of the > >>>> charter. I actually have completed the charter but the decision has > been > >>>> taken to hold off on the creation of a TC until after the projects > have > >>>> all started and have gained some maturity. In some ways this is good, > as > >>>> we will have a much clearer idea of the scope of the eventual TC, > while > >>>> in others I think we are missing a good opportunity. I will keep you > >>>> appraised of any changes in our plans. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you so much for all your assistance, and I wish you a happy and > >>>> prosperous 2008. > >>>> > >>>> ~Mick > >>>> > >>>> P.S. Hopefully we can catch up at the next Symposium in Santa Clara! > >>>> > >>>> Mary McRae wrote: > >>>>> Hi Mick, > >>>>> > >>>>> Happy New Year! > >>>>> > >>>>> I just wanted to touch base to see if any progress has been made in > >>>>> putting the charter together or if you're in need of further > >> assistance. > >>>>> Don't hesitate to contact me. > >>>>> > >>>>> All the best, > >>>>> > >>>>> Mary > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Nov 29, 2007 6:48 PM, Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >>>>> <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Mick, > >>>>> > >>>>> The process is pretty straightforward. You have two > alternatives: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. If you already have a pretty solid idea of the scope of work > and > >>>>> sufficient > >>>>> supporters, you can start directly by submitting a draft charter > to > >>>>> myself. > >>>>> Prior to the formal submission, you can pass a draft along to > Jamie > >>>>> and myself - > >>>>> we'll review and provide feedback. (TC Process: > >>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#s2.2) > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. If you have a general idea but are looking for a group of > people > >>>>> to help > >>>>> refine the goals and scope, then you can start by requesting the > >>>>> formation of a > >>>>> discussion group. Discussion groups are open for 90 days and are > >> not > >>>>> limited to > >>>>> OASIS members - i.e. anyone can join. The only topic allowed to > be > >>>>> discussed is > >>>>> the actual goals of the TC and drafting the charter; that is, no > >>>> actual > >>>>> technical work can be conducted. > >>>>> (TC Process: http://www.oasis- > open.org/committees/process.php#s2.1) > >>>>> > >>>>> You can see actual charter submissions by reviewing the > >>>>> oasis-charter-discuss > >>>>> email archives: > >>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter- > >>>> discuss/200711/msg00000.html > >>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter- > >>>> discuss/200709/msg00000.html > >>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter- > >>>> discuss/200705/msg00008.html > >>>>> <http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter- > >>>> discuss/200705/msg00008.html> > >>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/oasis-charter- > >>>> discuss/200705/msg00000.html > >>>>> As far as the tutorial, the call for presentations is open NOW - > >>>>> I'll look > >>>>> forward to its arrival! > >>>>> > >>>>> All the best, > >>>>> > >>>>> Mary > >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>> > From: Mick Kerrigan [mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at > >>>>> <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>] > >>>>> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:50 PM > >>>>> > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis- > open.org> > >>>>> > Subject: Re: Jamie Clark > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Okay Mary, thats great. As I mentioned I am the secretary of > the > >>>>> > semantic-ex TC, I am also a researcher in Europe at what was > the > >>>>> Digital > >>>>> > Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) Innsbruck and has recently > >>>> become > >>>>> > the Semantic Technology Institute (STI) Innsbruck[1][2]. STI > has > >>>>> already > >>>>> > become a large organisation with some of the leading semantics > >>>>> research > >>>>> > bodies in Europe as members. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I am not sure if you are aware, but the latest round of funding > >> for > >>>>> > European Research projects has just completed, and STI > Innsbruck > >>>>> amongst > >>>>> > other institutes in STI have done very well from the funding. > >>>>> Crucially > >>>>> > in many of our projects we have a sizeable budget for each > >> partner > >>>> in > >>>>> > the project towards standardization. We wish to ensure that > this > >>>>> money > >>>>> > is not wasted and thus wish to start a new technical committee > >>>> focused > >>>>> > on the goals and aims of a number of research projects. This > >>>> technical > >>>>> > committee will be backed by a large number of players > (crucially > >>>>> IBM and > >>>>> > SAP from the industry side and almost every major semantic > >>>> scientific > >>>>> > player in Europe from the research side). These organisations > >> will > >>>>> each > >>>>> > have budget within this project that can only be spent on > >>>>> contributing > >>>>> > to standardization through this new OASIS TC, thus ensuring a > >> high > >>>>> level > >>>>> > of participation in TC activities. Of course the TC will be > open > >> to > >>>>> > membership from those outside the projects, especially to > >> research > >>>>> and > >>>>> > industry in the states. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > The technical committee will focus on standardizing an > >>>> infrastructure > >>>>> > for open and scalable semantics on the Web, which essentially > >>>>> addresses > >>>>> > the problem of scaling the work from the semantic-ex TC up to a > >> Web > >>>>> > scale along with some orthogonal issues related to scalable > >>>> reasoning, > >>>>> > amongst other things. Can you make me aware of the process that > >> we > >>>>> need > >>>>> > to go through in order to make this new TC a reality. I assume > >> the > >>>>> first > >>>>> > step is to prepare a charter? The currently proposed name for > the > >>>> TC > >>>>> > would be the Open Scalable Semantics (OSS) TC. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Regards, > >>>>> > > >>>>> > ~Mick > >>>>> > > >>>>> > P.S. One other thing I wanted to let you know is that we would > >>>>> love to > >>>>> > give a tutorial at the next OASIS Symposium on Semantic > Business > >>>>> > Processes (fitting in with the Composability aspect of the > >>>>> Symposium). I > >>>>> > am currently working with a number of others to complete a > >> tutorial > >>>>> > proposal, which we will submit before the 15th of December > >>>>> deadline. You > >>>>> > may be aware that we have already presented a tutorial in 2005 > >> and > >>>> I > >>>>> > personally present in 2006. Both tutorials were quite > successful > >> in > >>>>> > introducing semantics to OASIS and we hope to continue the > >>>> tradition > >>>>> > this year. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > [1] http://www.sti2.org > >>>>> > [2] http://www.sti2.at > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Mary McRae wrote: > >>>>> > > Hi Mick, > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Not sure why Jamie isn't answering. I'll be happy to help > in > >>>>> any way I > >>>>> > > can ... feel free to ask away! > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > All the best, > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Mary > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > On 11/23/07, * Mick Kerrigan* <mick.kerrigan@deri.at > >>>>> <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at> > >>>>> > > <mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at > <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Hi Mary, > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I am the secretary of the OASIS semantic-ex TC and I have > >>>>> been trying > >>>>> > to > >>>>> > > reach Jamie Clark for about a month with a number of > >> issues. > >>>>> I was > >>>>> > just > >>>>> > > wondering if you could discovery if my mails are > >>>>> accidentally going > >>>>> > > into > >>>>> > > his spam folder as Jamie is normally so quick at > responses > >> :) > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Essentially I have a number of urgent issues to discuss > >> with > >>>>> Jamie > >>>>> > > regarding the semantic-ex TC as well as the establishment > >> of > >>>>> a new TC > >>>>> > on > >>>>> > > Open Scalable Semantic (OSS). > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Regards, > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ~Mick > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > -- > >>>>> > > Mick Kerrigan > >>>>> > > Researcher (SEE Cluster) > >>>>> > > Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) > >>>>> > > Universität Innsbruck, Austria > >>>>> > > ----------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > > E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at > >> <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at> > >>>>> <mailto: mick.kerrigan@deri.at <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at>> > >>>>> > > Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/ > >>>>> > > ----------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > -- > >>>>> > > Mary P McRae > >>>>> > > Manager of TC Administration, OASIS > >>>>> > > mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > >>>>> <mailto: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis- > >>>> open.org>> > >>>>> > > voip: 603.232.9090 > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security > >>>>> System. > >>>>> > > For more information please visit > >>>> http://www.messagelabs.com/email > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -- > >>>>> > Mick Kerrigan > >>>>> > Researcher (SEE Cluster) > >>>>> > Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) > >>>>> > Universität Innsbruck, Austria > >>>>> > ----------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at <mailto:mick.kerrigan@deri.at> > >>>>> > Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/ > >>>>> > ----------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Mary P McRae > >>>>> Manager of TC Administration, OASIS > >>>>> mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > >>>>> voip: 603.232.9090 > >>>> -- > >>>> Mick Kerrigan > >>>> Researcher (SEE Cluster) > >>>> Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) > >>>> Universität Innsbruck, Austria > >>>> ----------------------------------------------- > >>>> E-Mail: mick.kerrigan@deri.at > >>>> Web: http://see.deri.org/mick/ > >>>> ----------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> Mick Kerrigan > >> Researcher (SEE Cluster) > >> Semantic Technology Institute (STI) > >> Universität Innsbruck, Austria > >> ----------------------------------- > >> T +43 (0) 512 507 6463 > >> F +43 (0) 512 507 9872 > >> E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at > >> W http://see.sti2.at/mick/ > >> ----------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > Mick Kerrigan > Researcher (SEE Cluster) > Semantic Technology Institute (STI) > Universität Innsbruck, Austria > ----------------------------------- > T +43 (0) 512 507 6463 > F +43 (0) 512 507 9872 > E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at > W http://see.sti2.at/mick/ > ----------------------------------- -- Mick Kerrigan Researcher (SEE Cluster) Semantic Technology Institute (STI) Universität Innsbruck, Austria ----------------------------------- T +43 (0) 512 507 6463 F +43 (0) 512 507 9872 E mick.kerrigan@sti2.at W http://see.sti2.at/mick/ -----------------------------------
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