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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Updated Service Description Diagram


Well, we discussed a number of things that seemed to relate to  
description per se, rather than service description. For example,  
provenance is an attribute of all descriptions.

On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Ken Laskey wrote:

> In the latest diagram, Danny separated out the Consumer Description  
> completely.  Yes, it doesn't make any sense to include a parent if  
> there is a single child.  We will have to see where this goes when  
> I next try to augment the text.
>
> Ken
>
> On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:
>
>> I don’t think showing that relationship adds anything given  
>> “Service Description” is fairly self explanatory.  Unless there is  
>> some trait of the “Description” base class that is inherited that  
>> we might not ordinarily otherwise assume, it might just be  
>> clutter.  By the same token, a modeler would not show a java  
>> package up to the first order of logic where everything inherits  
>> from the Object object.  Each modeler must carefully chose their  
>> frame based on the audiences ability to derive or infer semantics  
>> from the model.
>>
>> Duane
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/06 3:46 PM, "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> My apologies for being sloppy.  Service is supposed to be Service  
>>> Description.  This and Consumer Description were to inherit from  
>>> a comon Description class.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Francis McCabe wrote:
>>>
>>>> The diagram as a whole focuses on descriptions, not service  
>>>> itself. I believed that it was understood that a description is  
>>>> not a specialization of service, nor the other way around.
>>>>
>>>> However, if we are getting confused, then the diagram needs more  
>>>> work. Clearly.
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 3, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think that is the correct relationship.  A description  
>>>>> describes the
>>>>> service.  Neither is an instance of the other or inherits in  
>>>>> any way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/3/06 9:57 AM, "Jeffrey A. Estefan"  
>>>>> <jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we need to update the diagram to reflect "Service  
>>>>>> Description" inherits
>>>>>> from "Description" and not "Service" inherits from  
>>>>>> "Description" as
>>>>>> currently shown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>> Sr. Technical Evangelist - Adobe Systems, Inc.       *
>>>>> Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee*
>>>>> Blog: http://technoracle.blogspot.com                *
>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken Laskey
>>>
>>>
>>> MITRE Corporation, M/S H305     phone:  703-983-7934
>>>
>>>
>>> 7515 Colshire Drive                        fax:        703-983-1379
>>>
>>>
>>> McLean VA 22102-7508
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ******************************************************
>> Sr. Technical Evangelist - Adobe Systems, Inc.       *
>> Chair - OASIS SOA Reference Model Technical Committee*
>> Blog: http://technoracle.blogspot.com                *
>> ******************************************************
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --------------------
> Ken Laskey
> MITRE Corporation, M/S H305     phone:  703-983-7934
> 7515 Colshire Drive                        fax:        703-983-1379
> McLean VA 22102-7508
>



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