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Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] Service non-definition
Michael, Your comment goes to one piece of the non-definition, and that piece is meant to tie in one general idea of service, not the combination access mechanism and capability which is mostly our focus. Peter is trying to split hairs and tie together all the noun/verb/adjective uses of service, and is looking for a way to indicate context without using the S word. Look at his non-definition again and see what you would suggest modifying with that as a proposed way of getting across our intended ideas. As I noted in a previous email, we need to be sure what points we want to make and distract neither ourselves or our readers when we express those ideas. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Kenneth Laskey MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 7515 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 McLean VA 22102-7508 From: mpoulin@usa.com [mailto:mpoulin@usa.com] I cannot accept this definition, Peter, sorry. Why would not we use Ken's expression directly? Here is why I dislike the definition below: 1) service and result are too much different things; service delivers result like any function, but it is not a result itself. Service=result is terribly confusing to me! 2) I do not accept that a service is always a process. I am involved now in a a wide discussion about ACM vs. BPM - adaptive case management vs. process management - and the common agreement that we may not call 'process' everything we do because process is only structured set of actions. Also, both process and actions are 'doing' while I insist on that a service is a thing, which can 'do'. Going further into Business SOA, service is a business unit providing business functionality and delivering the results (and RWE). - Michael -----Original Message----- How does this sound: “A ‘service’ can be variously understood as ‘some result delivered’ as well as the ‘process’ or indeed the abstract ‘thing’ involved in delivering that result. Where the term service is used in this document, it is in the common sense way which may cover any or all of these concepts. Where one or other explicit senses it intended, and in order to avoid possible ambiguity, more explicit terms (including Real World Effect, Service Activity, Capability and System) will be used in line with the definitions in the Reference Model.” I would propose adding this to the end of the second para of section 1.2: Does this help? Peter F Brown Independent Consultant Transforming our Relationships with Information Technologies Web www.peterfbrown.com Blog pensivepeter.wordpress.com LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/pensivepeter Twitter @pensivepeter P.O. Box 49719, Los Angeles, CA 90049, USA Tel: +1.310.694.2278 Tel: +1.310.694.2278 |
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