RE: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

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Having faced this same challenge several times now, I will see if there
is a good opportunity to speak about leveraging the new Federal CIO
Council-sponsored SOA Community of Practice (SOACoP), and nudging that
group to look seriously at our work
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Consider them nudged;) I believe they are already looking at it
seriously, and we can consider them the "choir".

Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:40 PM
To: Ken Laskey; Jeffrey A Estefan
Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Greater SOA-RM Visibility is Needed!

Having faced this same challenge several times now, I will see if there
is a good opportunity to speak about leveraging the new Federal CIO
Council-sponsored SOA Community of Practice (SOACoP), and nudging that
group to look seriously at our work. Actually, we have a few strategies
we can choose from, and I will also be doing a follow-up report about
our work as an extension of a large series of reports I did in DM Review
last year on Enterprise Architecture (EA) and SOA. 
The first conference on SOA for E-Government sponsored by the SOACoP has
already issued a Call for Papers/Presentations and a couple of us have
said we would be answering that call. Joe Chiusano has already done some
similar work which captures our efforts and I am sure there will be
more.

It is more a case of just plugging away at it until it becomes
unavoidable, especially by those who have a good reason to avoid
us.Those are the ensemble of companies whose efforts are both
proprietary and wrapped around either the "Enterprise Service Bus" 
concept or the "Service-Oriented Architecture Fabric" idea. While in
reality, both are variations on the same theme as the RM, they and their
ilk seek to "own" the concept, but I doubt that they can do much more
than muddy the waters.

Regards,
Rex

At 8:50 PM -0500 3/28/06, Ken Laskey wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>This is why I did a morning long presentation for MITRE and had people 
>bring their sponsors.  Most people aren't aware of and don't go out of 
>their way to follow what goes on in standards development organizations

>(SDOs) and I usually have to explain what OASIS is and what is a 
>Technical Committee.  (I have to do the same when talking about IETF, 
>W3C, ... .)  Part of the effort is to get it into the horizon of 
>"experts" writing articles and for us to plug it whenever we are in a 
>new venue.
>
>Other than that, I don't know where there is other magic.
>
>Ken
>
>On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Jeffrey A Estefan wrote:
>
>>Duane and the SOA-RM TC,
>>
>>I'm attending the Ground System Architectures Workshop (GSAW) in L.A. 
>>this week and just this morning, I sat through a number of talks 
>>describing SOA in general and SOA in the context of ground system 
>>architectures for space data systems.  There was a great deal of 
>>discussion surrounding SOA and Web Services and unfortunately, not 
>>enough about distinguishing between the two (i.e., architectural style

>>vs. technology).  The only references to OASIS were with respect to 
>>various WS-* specs.  I was even more disheartened to hear one speaker 
>>state explicitly during his talk (and captured as a bullet) that "no 
>>standards-based reference model exists for SOA."  Of course, I had to 
>>set the record straight during the Q&A following this speaker's 
>>presentation, and was promptly approached by many in the audience 
>>asking where they could find a copy of the SOA-RM Public Draft!
>>
>>My point is that each and every speaker this morning used a different 
>>lexicon for defining SOA and none of them acknowledged or even made 
>>reference to the OASIS SOA-RM.  I think we need to do some better job 
>>marketing this work.  Do the OASIS By-Laws allow us to do this?  We 
>>[this body of work] needs much more visibility whether in various 
>>industry rags, user group forums, consortia,
>>etc.   This is particularly true in the Government contexts (i.e., 
>>Military, Civil, and Intel space communities) that I witnessed today.
>>
>>Would like to hear your thoughts on how we might address this problem.
>>
>>Regards...
>>
>>  - Jeff Estefan, JPL
>>
>>
>
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