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Subject: RE: [tgf] OASIS Formal procedures for deliverables and our path forward - Today's call and Next Steps
Chris Following the call today and talking further with Peter, nothing fundamentally new has arisen to change our thinking as outlined in Peter’s note below. So what we want to focus now on producing the “TGF Primer” – note the new name, which essentially will take most of what Peter had included in his Core Framework document plus as much of the uncontested material from the three other Frameworks, ie Business Mgmt, Customer Mgmt and Channel Mgmt, as you think appropriate. And it is this Primer that we look to approve at our March TC meeting. Whether we approve it as a Committee Specification Draft or just as a Committee Note is up for discussion but we don’t need to worry too much about that at this particular point. It may well depend on how many sensible conformance clauses we can put into it. We will almost certainly pull the Primer apart in the next iteration as we separate out the various Frameworks into stand-alone much more detailed documents, plus the Reference Model that Peter refers to below. But at least with the Primer we will have something to use in our wider discussions with the outside world, eg EC, White House, WB, ERIS@, etc, something that we can turn into a standard presentation, and something we can use as a marketing tool. So will you now take over editing control from Peter please whilst he’s away and look to put together the draft of the Primer with a target of posting a first cut by the end of next week for discussion and review. Peter will very quickly send you a revised outline of the Primer for you to work with. Please ensure you take on board Nig’s recent suggested changes which are in the attached if you don’t have them with you. Peter will look after turning the document into the required OASIS template in due course so don’t worry too much about the formatting, a simple document will do at this stage. If you want to, and have the time available, to have a working review later next week then let me know and I’ll set it up. If we can get a good first draft for discussion in time for our next TC meeting on 17th then we should be very well placed to have a final version ready for approval at the March meeting. John From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com] Hi: First off, apologies if some of the points I propose here seem to partly contradict previous posts – but it has been a necessarily iterative process between the formal constraints of the OASIS TC Process and achieving our work objectives that I discussed in some detail again with John today – so, here goes… Our constraints: - ‘Multi-part” deliverables must nonetheless be advanced as a single batch through the TC process, making it difficult to work and advance separate pieces independently. - When we want to start formally using the required OASIS deliverable templates, we have to state from the outset the type of deliverable, name, id, etc. Best practice: think carefully and try to get it right first time, fit for purpose - We want to achieve a series of interlocking work items whilst taking some further and faster forward than others. I would therefore like to suggest the following work plan: - First deliverable: instead of a ‘TGF Core Framework’, we create and approve a “TGF Primer” – consisting largely of the ‘first level’ stuff I proposed in Part I of the currently--titled ‘TGF Core’: this deliverable would be broad, not necessarily too deep, covering the whole of the essence of the work we are doing – it doesn’t necessarily have to be advanced to an OASIS committee specification or standard, but the fact that it is titled ‘Primer’ gives a clear message as to its intended use: o Chris works on this following tomorrow’s working session and aims to have a rough informal draft by end of next week o for discussion at Feb 17 TC meeting; o If this conforms with general expectations, I would ‘register’ this to be started as a ‘Committee Specification Draft’ (in OASIS formal terminology) and transfer any draft into the formal template; o We would publish this to list and open an ‘issues list’ allowing members to comment and raise editing and conceptual issues; o Editors will look at each issue submitted and propose new ‘dispositions of text’ (using OASIS speak) o Draft and issues list would be discussed at March meeting and if sufficient consensus, be adopted then – if not, further cycles until adopted o ‘Adopted’ means (in formal process terms) agreeing the text as a ‘Committee Specification Draft’ (CSD) o This ‘Primer’ would mark a ‘baseline’ that we can work from for other deliverables and provide a reference for our organisations ‘marketing’ and promotional work o The Primer CSD can stay in that ‘state’ as long as we want – it can be put out for public review, it can be further re-drafted internally, or we can simply sit on it for the time being - Next deliverables: The three ‘Management Frameworks’ (Business, Customer and Channel) and (and this is a new suggestion) a fourth, a TGF Reference Model, that would include the terminology, conceptual relationships and some (tbd) level of formal or semi-formal modelling o As above, we start work on each of these four as informal drafts, with sub-editors assigned to each and aim to get a rough draft to the TC as soon as possible – maybe on same time schedule as for Primer but as they are de-linked, it gives us flexibility to move the first forward asap as a baseline marker; o I am essentially proposing pulling parts II and IV from the first draft of the current ‘TGF Core’ document out and making that a distinct deliverable – this will also be more consistent with our charter that states unequivocally that the TGF will include a Reference Model o Once we’re happy, again would register these four as starting the process towards CSD, and follow same process; o We should aim at the latest for the March TC to agree to start these on the formal CSD track; o Unlike the Primer, however, our objective for these four is to advance them to approved OASIS Committee Specification and, if conformance issues are dealt with, to full OASIS Standard; - Other deliverables: as and when possible, start drafting content for two possible ‘Committee Notes’ that cover, respectively, “SOA” and “tools and models for the business management framework” – others can follow as material appears and TC agrees: o Similar process to above – first rough draft; when TC is happy, register as work products to follow the non-standards track, to become ‘Committee Notes’ If others are agreeable, it is in this direction that we will try to work tomorrow and get some first rough drafts out to the TC in the coming weeks. First target would be to have a rough-hewn text of the TGF Primer in plenty of time for discussion at next TC. Game on! Cheers, Peter Peter F Brown Independent Consultant Transforming our Relationships with Information Technologies Blog pensivepeter.wordpress.com LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/pensivepeter Twitter @pensivepeter P.O. Box 49719, Los Angeles, CA 90049, USA Tel: +1.310.694.2278 |
--- Begin Message ---Title: RE: [tgf] Draft deliverable 1 - the TGF Core Framework
- From: "Greenaway Nigel" <Nig.Greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com>
- To: "John Borras" <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>,<peter@peterfbrown.com>,"TGF TC List " <tgf@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:42:34 -0000
Hi,
I may only be able to initiate tomorrow’s working session conference call but have had a chance to read Peter’s documents and attach some comments:-
1. Core Framework (added to John’s comments (with which I agree) – I suggest that we need more emphasis on businesses being customers and the use of modern technologies to foster partnership working with customers and interest groups outside government
<<20110203 - Outline Draft - 1 - TGF Core Framework+JB + NG comments.doc>>
2. Business Management Framework. I have added my original ‘stakeholder’ model in at the point that I feel is appropriate
<<20110203 - Outline Draft - 2 - Business Management Framework + NG Comments.doc>>
3. Customer Management Framework. I think we need to review the status of the Concentrix model and any alternatives that would satisfy our requirements.
<<20110203 - Outline Draft - 3 - Customer Management Framework + NG Comments.doc>>
4. Channel Management Framework. I suggest that we need to promote a mixed economy of government and other organisations.
<<20110203 - Outline Draft - 4 - Channel Management Framework + NG Comments.doc>>
5. Business Management Framework. I suggest that we consider the CSTranform Governance Maturity Model for inclusion in this paper
Regards
Nig
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From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 01 February 2011 11:36
To: peter@peterfbrown.com; 'TGF TC List '
Subject: RE: [tgf] Draft deliverable 1 - the TGF Core Framework
Peter
Thanks for this and the other sections you’ve posted. A few initial thoughts in attached but as you say we need to agree on the overall structure and flow first before we get to detailed content. I tend to agree with Colin that the demarcation between overview/scope and the Framework standard bit is not very clear. Not a big editing job, just needs some word smithing to make the distinction clear. For discussion on Friday.
John
From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com]
Sent: 01 February 2011 01:56
To: TGF TC List
Subject: [tgf] Draft deliverable 1 - the TGF Core Framework
Hi:
In line with the proposals that I made last week, I have submitted to our document repository a first, very rough and ready draft of what would be the first main standards-track deliverable, the ‘TGF Core Framework’:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tgf/document.php?document_id=40965
I’ve screen scraped from the CS Transform contributions and used various bits that have also been worked on. The detail isn’t important at this stage (and as editors, Chris and I will obviously take care to endure the text is fully coherent), just the overall structure and flow.
I’ll do the same for the next three – which should be easier as they are more or less straight lifts from the business management, customer management and channel management sections of the contributions we have. I’ll submit them asap.
As for the four ‘non-standards track’ Committee Notes,
- we don’t yet have any substantive content for the one on SOA;
- the one on “tools and models for the business management framework” will include material we have on the milestones matrix, the stakeholders map, and the policy map
- the ones on “tools and models for the customer management framework” and “tools and models for the channel management framework” are fairly bare at the moment – we will have to judge how much goes in the respective ‘frameworks’ and how much needs to be left to a non-standards track paper
Regards,
Peter
Peter F Brown
Independent Consultant
Transforming our Relationships with Information Technologies
Blog pensivepeter.wordpress.com
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Twitter @pensivepeter
P.O. Box 49719, Los Angeles, CA 90049, USA
Tel: +1.310.694.2278
20110203 - Outline Draft - 1 - TGF Core Framework+JB + NG comments.doc
20110203 - Outline Draft - 2 - Business Management Framework + NG Comments.doc
20110203 - Outline Draft - 3 - Customer Management Framework + NG Comments.doc
20110203 - Outline Draft - 4 - Channel Management Framework + NG Comments.doc
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