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Subject: RE: OASIS TGF BUSINESS CASE FLYER
Following on from the discussions below and our earlier discussions on this topic, attached is a first attempt at a Business Case flyer. Note the objective is to have something easy to hand out, that will give people a very clear steer on what TGF is all about, and why they should consider using it. It’s not about expressing the financial case, that is too hard and to dependent on a number of factors outside our control. So would K below “get it” from this? Let me know what you think about this outline, I would suggest 4 pages is the maximum length we should go for, and also any contributions particularly to the list on page 4. Perhaps also we need a few more words on each subject on page 4? I’ve created it in MS Publisher but for those that don’t have that software please use the pdf version. Regards John Borras Chair OASIS TGF Technical Committee m. +(0)44 7976 157745 Skype: gov3john www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tgf From: Colin Wallis [mailto:Colin.Wallis@dia.govt.nz] Cheers for this Nig. << but note that K isn’t keen on the introductory material. This strikes me as another reason for expediting our business case. >> +1 to that <<The point about eServices is interesting (defensive?) and perhaps something that we should consider as part of that exercise as well – we need to ensure that we don’t turn people off who are proud of what they have managed to achieve.>> +1 , but does K 'get it'? Has she read it closely enough to absorb what it *actually* says? But if on a quick skim, K has not picked up the vital point that it is *not* about how many eServices you might've put up online, then that means we are not emphasising the rationale strongly enough. The reference to Territory, suggests Northern Territories (state) to me, which may be one that has had less exposure to the TG concepts.. Cheers Colin From: Greenaway Nigel [mailto:Nig.Greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com] Hi All, Please see below for an email discussion following me drawing the attention of the W3C eGovernment Interest Group to the TGF Primer together with an exchange between John and I about it. The initiator of the discussion sent the note to me privately (rather than to the complete interest group) so I have removed anything that could identify them and referred to them as K throughout. Regards Nig Nig Greenaway Government Division FUJITSU Lovelace Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 8SN Tel: +44 (0) 843 354 5637 Internal: 7302 5637 Mob : +44 (0) 7867 833147 Internal: 7383 3147 E-mail: nig.greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com From: Greenaway Nigel [mailto:Nig.Greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com] Hi John, K is a Policy Manager, in ICT Services within an Australian Territory. BTW, the message simply sought to draw their attention to the document and requested comments (via the OASIS public mechanism). I read the note as being supportive but perhaps weary of the potential for any framework to become obsolete. I was encouraged that she thinks the content is practical but note that K isn’t keen on the introductory material. This strikes me as another reason for expediting our business case. The point about eServices is interesting (defensive?) and perhaps something that we should consider as part of that exercise as well – we need to ensure that we don’t turn people off who are proud of what they have managed to achieve. BTW, I presented to the UK Government’s Information domain during the week. They were interested in the framework and wanted more detail in a few places (there seemed to be particular interest in the identity management aspects). They requested a short overview document and felt that would help us get buy-in from senior officials. I think that this is another pointer to the need for our business case. Regards Nig Nig Greenaway Government Division FUJITSU Lovelace Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 8SN Tel: +44 (0) 843 354 5637 Internal: 7302 5637 Mob : +44 (0) 7867 833147 Internal: 7383 3147 E-mail: nig.greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com From: John Borras [mailto:john.borras@cstransform.com] What do we make of this - supportive, critical, good but it’s a passing phase? Did K infer what they would do with it if anything or are they going to just ignore it? What role has K in the Group? John From: Greenaway Nigel [mailto:Nig.Greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com] Hi John, PSA for some feedback via the W3c e-Government Interest Group Regards Nig Nig Greenaway Government Division FUJITSU Lovelace Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 8SN Tel: +44 (0) 843 354 5637 Internal: 7302 5637 Mob : +44 (0) 7867 833147 Internal: 7383 3147 E-mail: nig.greenaway@uk.fujitsu.com From: KSent: 28 April 2011 23:39 Hi K, Yes indeed there is much Government experience in the group. The leading members used to work for the Office of the eEnvoy in the UK (charged with running the then e-Government programme) and have gone on to act as consultants in tens of territories across the world, whilst others work directly for different national governments and other government organisations or within the government supply community. The tone of your comment seems to imply that you don’t feel the document is very practical. Is that what you meant? Not quite. I think it’s a very practical document, and should be adopted widely – until the next framework comes into fashion. But that’s progress for you. What I was less impressed with is the introduction. I’ve been around a few years, and I’d be happy to relate to you my experience in doing more with less. It’s not a recent phenomenon. And you suggest that take-up of eServices has not been good. I’d argue that it has been (in our jurisdictions at least) very good, but of course it could be improved. My final comment – about the framework in general – is it seems to propose a transformation of government based on a service-oriented view of the world. Well (again in my view) there’s a lot more to government than delivering services to “the community” and to propose such a transformation (yes, even to the extent of tearing down the much-maligned silos) on the basis of improvement of +one element+ of government work smacks of hubris. Best, on this Day of Days K
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