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Subject: RE: [tgf] TC SATISFACTION SURVEY
That’s
it. You’ve got it Peter. From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Peter F Brown John, That’s not how I read
Colin’s note – rather that we need to find a driver, in a similar way that the
security and defence communities have, to push for greater cross-agency and
cross-jurisdictional cooperation. There are some signs
– such as within the Gulf Cooperation Council, to develop a similar approach as
to the European Union’s European Interoperability Framework – but examples are
sparse outside of the defence and security spaces Peter Peter F Brown Independent
Consultant P.O.
Box 49719, Los Angeles, CA 90049, USA Tel:
+1.310.694.2278 From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of John Borras Thanks Colin. Unfortunately it’s going to be
difficult to sell the message of citizen-centric services to defence and
national security leaders IMO. So we would need a slightly different tack
for them. Let’s pick up on this on the next call. John From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Colin Wallis It’s darn hard, is my first answer. I know that, up to a point, the market will
come to the work, and whatever we do to force that timing forward, we will be
pushing against a partly closed door. One of the challenges I find, is that most
folks doing Cloud or doing Identity, don’t see the market opportunity by
pushing their wares in the government transformation space. And visa
versa. The other issue is that there is no clear and
obvious ‘government transformation space’ yet, but please correct me if I’m
wrong. Governments are as siloed on an inter government level (when you
get beyond national security, defence and law enforcement where there is both a
mutual incentive and high level/political mindshare) as they are
intra-government. However, my now well known cynicism took a
hit a few weeks ago when I learned from Malcolm Crompton in Australia (not our
own privacy folks of course!) that APEC’s Privacy Framework has just agreed the
Corporate Binding Privacy Rules for multi-jurisdictional governance of privacy
(harmonisation) across the member countries. This was a volunteer effort
of APEC nations both gov and private sector organisations, that goes to show
that even without the threat of national security, defence etc, if there is
enough motivation and volunteer effort to make it happen, you can achieve
things. Which brings me to the nub of the
issue..getting the mindshare high up in government where defence and national
security sit right now.. Cheers Colin From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of John Borras I’m sorry we didn’t have the time to discuss this on our
call yesterday and I’ll ensure we make time for it on the next call. In
the meantime it would be good to get some views from you on how to go about
meeting these issues. And just to remind you we did agree on our
previous call that the priority at this stage should be on outreach rather than
on producing further products, so dealing with these comments now is very
timely. For the last point about clearer objectives, as I said on
the call if the person who made that comment would like to elaborate on it
either with the whole TC or just with me, then we can hopefully work out a
solution to the problem. It doesn’t sound like it’s a real showstopper,
perhaps just more explanation required in some of our documentation. The first and second points I think are closely related
and we should be able to tackle both through the same solution. Now that
we have base-lined versions of the Primer and the Pattern Language, plus the
emerging Policy Products document, we are in a much better position to reach
out and sell the messages. A quick and easy way is
to host a Webinar or series of Webinars. OASIS does a lot of these and
generally they go down well albeit only attracting small audiences. So I
propose that we do one or more of those but do not rely on it as the only
solution to the problems. We need to supplement the webinars with other
events, such as the breakfast session we held in Brussels last year. But
of course that sort of event will cost money and again any one event will only
reach a relatively small audience in any particular region, unless we can run a
series of them in different parts of the world. Another angle we could try is working with other Organisations
to promote our message, like we are doing with ERIS@ here in Europe.
Perhaps a follow up to the launch event we held with the World Bank might be
something we could attempt. We have tried a number of times to get papers or articles
published with no real success so I do not feel we should put too much effort
into that route in future. To take any of this forward we will need a few volunteers
to help prepare the outreach material, host some of the events and use their
communication networks to help promote our activities. Whilst OASIS has a
very good communications network, it does not necessarily have access to our
target audience of senior bodies in Government organisations and consultancy
houses. Can I hear from any of you who are willing and able to
assist with any of this and also any other ideas that you think we should
pursue. It would be good if we could put together a package for
approval on the next TC call. John From: John
Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
I have just
received the results of the recent TC Satisfaction Survey for our TC and thanks
to those of you who took time to respond. There are some comments made in
the survey that I would like to follow up on during our next TC call so perhaps
you could give it some thought beforehand. -
-
“Engage in more educational and
promotional activities, such as webinars and seminars” -
“Encourage broader
participation” -
“Develop clearer objectives for
the work products” I would stress
that this is not a witch hunt by me for those who have made the comments, I’m
just trying to use them as positive inputs to the future work of the TC. Regards John Borras Chair OASIS TGF Technical Committee m. +(0)44 7976 157745 Skype: gov3john www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tgf
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