Hi John
I agree, and actually this service here is based on my
engagement with the Province of Ontario: http://CloudRFP.info
So there are the first pioneers in government now recognizing
the move to Cloud and are preparing for it, including engaging
consulting as I demonstrate. This template can now be used by
other Ontario agencies for their RFP procurements as well, and
so will underpin more work for additional consultants as well as
myself.
I also agree that OASIS would need to cultivate more in-depth
resources for further engagement, which is where our TC efforts
can feed in.
For example I'd recommend a set of RFP templates from each
group (eg Key Management from KMIP) and that PACR co-ordinates
these in to one overall set as per the groups agenda.
Cheers, Neil.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:04 AM, John
Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Neil
IMO
the challenge is not about trying to convince the
consultancy houses that they need to be conformant
with OASIS, or any other open, standards, we should be
looking to get the government agencies to embrace the
standards and then demand conformance to them in their
procurement of consultancy and other ICT services. So
I think we need to target the public sector bodies and
get them on board. But as we all know that is very
difficult and invariably hasn’t worked in the past
because nobody has been able to produce a convincing
enough business case for them to do so. What I would
like to see is our eGov Member Section produce such a
document but that will need a good deal of input from
the membership as it’s beyond the resources of the
Steering Committee.
John
Yes Peter, the migration to Cloud
services, especially for folks like government, will
generate a mass of the consulting work that is bread
and butter for these folks: Business transformation,
analysis and audit, etc.
I have had a crack at a white paper
that introduces the TGF and PACR work, mapped to local
requirements, in this case the Province of Ontario:
If I can get lots of Ontario
province folks interested, that will attract the
consultants..
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM,
Peter F Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>
wrote:
Indeed, and with all three of the
big 5 you mention being members of OASIS
already, I have tried talking to them to see
about engaging further…
I will be talking with Bill Eggers
in Washington in a couple of weeks and have good
contacts with Capgemini too, less so with PwC….
Cheers,
Peter
From: Neil McEvoy [mailto:neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org]
Sent: Sunday, 30 September, 2012 20:43
To: Peter F Brown
Cc: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org;
Carol Geyer; laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [tgf] Consulting Engagement
Yes
Peter I understand the role OASIS should
play as a standards body, distinct from
the consultants who would then do the
related commercial engagements. Defining
the nature of this relationship would be
part of what to include in this consulting
pack that could also be part of their
OASIS membership (IPR agreements etc.).
I`ve
also just been discussing this point with
Laurent, that I can see good opportunity
to engage with the Cap Geminis, PwCs,
Deloittes, ... etc. with these programs
and co-op marketing activities as the
incentives for them to join, so it would
be helpful to list the TC assets they
would be entitled to when they join.
There
are some initial intro slides material for
an upcoming webinar that we could add to,
to get the ball rolling..
On
Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Peter F
Brown <peter@peterfbrown.com>
wrote:
Neil,
Thanks for raising this
important point – and not an easy one
to deal with….
My quick take would be
that this has little to do with the
core OASIS business model: OASIS makes
its money from a “pay to play” model
for the development of standards and
are certainly keen, through various
channels to see them taken up and
used; but OASIS has no role in
nurturing specific SoW’s or contracted
work for any party wishing to benefit
from the expertize of a TC member or
organization: that is usually down to
the members themselves to shoulder.
That said, I’m copying in
OASIS’ business development manager
who has recently talked to the OASIS
Board about better ways of promoting
the results of our standards work and
getting greater traction and buy
through, for example, specific
marketing groups or campaigns.
The specific sector we
are concerned with her e- the public
sector in their “post eGov strategies”
has been notoriously difficult for us
to address. We have had several
discussions about how to do this and,
certainly, ideas such as white papers,
a common slide deck of key issues,
case studies, etc. can all help that.
Carol – thoughts?
Best regards,
Peter
From: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:tgf@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Neil McEvoy
Sent: Saturday, 29 September,
2012 13:40
To: tgf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [tgf] Consulting
Engagement
Hi guys
I`m wondering how
governments are enabled to
engage with the TGF? I presume
they can join OASIS and then the
group, but then what?
This would suggest
a consulting engagement - Is
this supported and if so how?
Resources for this
could include:
- Template
documents for SOW engagement
- Template
Competency Framework
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