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Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] XTM copyright
for what it is worth, actually registering the tradmark is an expensive process. I have just had to register a trademark across Europe and it came to approx 2,500 pounds sterling. As I see it, the biggest issue is not registering it, but making sure thatwe are infringing someone else - I could try to get a search done through the people that work for us on these issues. Jason empolis tel + 44 7747 621353 -----Original Message----- From: sentto-1553146-1112-975603122-jsm=empolis.co.uk@returns.onelist.com [mailto:sentto-1553146-1112-975603122-jsm=empolis.co.uk@returns.onelist. com]On Behalf Of Dale Hunscher Sent: 30 November 2000 16:58 To: xtm-wg@egroups.com Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] XTM copyright NB Information does not appear to be claiming a trademark on XTM; in any case it's a completely different and non-competitive arena, so I don't think there's a legal issue (though only an attorney could say that for sure, and they never do). If anyone is going to claim a trademark on XTM they need to start putting a mark after the first use of the name in any given context (the letters "TM" in superscript is the convention most follow, but "(tm)" works in plain text) and putting a legend on the document such as "XTM is a trademark of XXXX" where XXXX is the claimant. This is the beginning step in establishing a trademark. The next is doing that same step in as many public contexts as possible to establish a basis for the claim. Then you could go through the registration process, which is different in each country. Even getting registration does not mean you can successfully defend a trademark, BTW. The real test is when you have to prosecute an infringement claim. IMHO, a three-letter acronym is pretty shaky. It's been done, though; witness IBM and SAP. Attorneys, feel free to correct. This is not legal advice, just the experience of someone whose been through the process before. Bernard Vatant wrote: > Murray > > I'm no more lawyer than you are, but "XTM" is already used here and there > as a product trademark. > See e.g. http://www.nb-info.co.uk/index.htm > > Don't know if that's a problem, but better ask the thirty lawyers ... > > Bernard > > > To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com ________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp ________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/0/_/337252/_/975604325/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com
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