RE: [xtm-wg] The Future of TopicMaps.Org

["Jean Delahousse" <jean.delahousse@mondeca.com>]

Hello,
I support what Steve suggest about XTM new organization and XMT joining
Oasis. I will not be in Berlin, but David Giblas our COO will be there for
the exhibition. If you have to decide things and what to have Mondeca's
opinion you can talk to David or call me.

I am really sorry not to be there as I very much enjoy to see you all and
that important decision have to be done for XTM.

See you all later

Sincerely

ps : ask david a demo of the soft, you'll like it I hope

Jean Delahousse
CEO Mondeca
Mobile : +33(0)6 16 90 73 95
Tel : +33(0)1 47 46 18 89
Fax : +33(0)1 47 46 01 09
www.mondeca.com

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Steve Pepper [mailto:pepper@ontopia.net]
> Envoyé : vendredi 11 mai 2001 16:30
> À : xtm-wg@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [xtm-wg] The Future of TopicMaps.Org
>
>
> At 07:23 11.05.2001 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> >It seems like the discussion has trickled off on your suggestion and I
> >am wondering if there is any sense of a consensus on how the XTM effort
> >(as opposed to TM.Org in particular) should proceed?
>
> My impression is that OASIS is seen as a favourable solution, by
> most (if not all), especially if that solution can be synergistic
> with continuing work in ISO (SC34) and initiatives within the W3C
> (SM and RDF).
>
> OASIS has a concept of "member sections". CGM-Open is one, I
> believe. TopicMaps.Org would fit the bill quite nicely. OASIS
> also have technical committees that could do work on things
> like interoperability, conformance, and applications (e.g.
> standardizing templates for carefully defined classes of topic
> maps, such as the ISO and ANSI standards for thesauri).
>
> To continue as a member of TopicMaps.Org one would have to join
> OASIS, but this can be done relatively cheaply (at least for
> individuals) through the International SGML/XML Users' Group.
> (And most of the companies that have sponsored TopicMaps.Org
> are already members of OASIS.)
>
> Inside OASIS we would also be able to leverage that organization's
> networking and marketing resources and experience. That is very
> important as far as building the community and the market is
> concerned.
>
> Regarding further standardization, other than the kind of
> vertical or horizontal applications mentioned above, I think
> SC34 is the right forum. Liaisons could be established with
> OASIS and some people, I am sure, would work in both. We just
> got news that two new topic map projects have received ISO
> approval (sTMQL - Standard Topic Map Query Language) and a
> Technical Report on the conceptual model (which could in
> theory be extended to cover the processing model). At the
> SC34 meeting in Berlin we will be appointing editors for each
> of these.
>
> I am a little less certain about the best way to go forward
> with the W3C. Eric Freese and I had a good talk with Dan Conolly
> and Eric Miller in Austin, but the furore surrounding the exeunt
> (right) of the former editors of XTM from TopicMaps.Org, and
> their refusal to engage in constructive discussion, prevented
> us from taking that further. I'm hoping that heads and tempers
> will have cooled by XML Europe in two weeks time, and that we
> might be able to get a dialogue going again.
>
> We still need to understand the details of how an OASIS member
> section would function. Eric F. and I will be having meetings
> with representatives of OASIS in Berlin. Following that, the
> TopicMaps.Org Authoring Group (and some of its subgroups) will
> hold their own meetings to discuss this and other matters. I
> think you can expect a proposal to be put forward for balloting
> by the AG shortly afterwards.
>
> I believe our key goals should be to:
>
> 1. Be able to guarantee the stability of XTM
> 2. Reunite the topic map community
> 3. Build the market
>
> TopicMaps.Org was, at best, (let's be honest) a self-appointed
> group of techies on a mission, a SWAT team whose goal was to adapt
> topic maps as defined in ISO 13250 for the Web. We did that. We
> did it very openly, and in such a way that anyone who was prepared
> to put in the effort could come along. And it worked. (True, tempers
> flared towards the end of the process. But that's normal.)
>
> Now we need to build credibility and do everything we can to avoid
> a situation in which new self-appointed groups, organizations, or
> (worst of all) *vendors* (spit) set themselves up as the custodians
> of topic mapping.
>
> See y'all in Berlin!
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Steve Pepper, Chief Technology Officer <pepper@ontopia.net>
> Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34/WG3  Editor, XTM (XML Topic Maps)
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