[ubl-lcsc] Minutes of Apr 23rd call

["Probert, Sue" <Sue.Probert@commerceone.com>]

Title: Minutes of Apr 23rd call

UBL-LCSC _ Minutes Teleconference
23rd April 2002
Attendees: Tim McGrath, Lisa Seaburg, Sue Probert, Sally Chan, Peter Yim, Marion Royal
1. Welcome from Chair & Appointment of Secretary
Sue Probert was appointed secretary for the meeting.
2. Acceptance of Previous Minutes
The minutes were accepted with slight changes.
3. Actions Arising from Previous Meeting.

• SALLY, FRANK, AROFAN. BP definitions for SCM. Sally reported that she has not yet had the opportunity to talk with Arofan or Frank - remains open.
• SALLY Send list of documents in the Procurement area, with ideas of prioritisation, to list server for comment. Sally reported that this was done but taht she also planned to revise prioritisation list and resent to the list.
• TIM. Draft comments on CCTS as expected, including NDR comments. Tim reported that he had collated the lcsc comments and had added them into Bill's ndr draft response. An editing team has been formed (Tim, Bill and Lisa) and they will deal with completing the response.
• LISA . Send out a reminder and details for the Review EDIT TEAM teleconference call on Thursday 19 to everyone. Done. The review editing team plans to investigate the tool QuickTopic. Peter will arrange a trial for the Thursday call. New action on SUE to find out whether Commerce One can provide a new conference call facility for ongoing Thursday calls.
• To chase up Arofan on the context paper for discussion next Tuesday conference call. No news on this from Arofan.
• Ask Arofan for progress report on his areas (Context Assembly, Tools & Techniques) in time for next Tuesday's conference call.  No news on this from Arofan.
• To talk to Tim about taking up the Process/Methodology paper, and put on next agenda. See specific agenda point below.
• MIKE. Continue with the Dependencies paper. Mike has sent out a draft.
• ALL. Contribute thoughts about rules, dependencies etc to Mike. This is to be completed by next Tuesday's call if possible.
• PETER To craft a small agenda programme on Ontology issues etc for the next F2F meeting. Ongoing but suggestion will probably be for one tutorial and one discussion session on ontology to be included in next F2F agenda.

4. Current Review - Editorial Team Report
Lisa reported that spreadsheet/table template had been drafted but not yet fully agreed within the EDIT team. Tim reorted that approx seven sets of comments had been received to date - some from individuals and others from groups. Lisa agreed to compile a comments author list with links to their individual contributions. IT was agreed that a shortened form of this should be sent to the UBL-Comment list and the full version to the lcsc list. It was noted that two weeks remain of the current comments period.

5. Workplan

• Tim confirmed that it is planned to add new columns into the library spreadsheet format to enable the capture of additional relevant data. Mike's dependencies paper makes some suggestions for consideration. It was noted that there may be dependencies which affect whether some pieces of data are relevant or not in each row. Sue volunteered to contact Mike to see if she could help formulate these ideas into concrete proposals. Peter suggested that the ontology theory might also prove helpful.
• Process/Methodology paper. Tim noted that this paper may need to be changed depending on the outcome of teh next CCTS review period. Tim agreed to produce a next stage draft and to send this to Lisa.
• Next document schema for lcsc to produce. It was noted that the Boeing scenario dpes not include planning. Following a discussion it was agreed that the order response was the next logical step to take. Tim agreed to produce a notice on this which would be sent to the lcsc and comment lists to inform and to invite participation. The aim is to complete a draft for discussion at the June F2F.

6. Status Reports from Other UBL SubCommittees

Tools & Techniques. Neither Arofan or Gunther present so no report this week.
Naming & Design Rules. Tim noted that Eve has sent a request for lcsc to discuss two specific topics. It was agreed that the group should study the relevant material in readiness for discussion on next week's agenda. Tim agreed to notify Eve of this decision. Tim noted that the two main areas of concern re CCTS are:

• Debate of CCTs versus RTs
• Property versus Property Term

Context Drivers. No news yet.
Context Assembly. Arofan not present so no report. Lisa, Sue and Tim will ask Arofan for progress report on his areas in time for next Tuesday conference call!

7. Reports on Status of Other Related Projects

Core Component Supplemental Documents: Sally reported that CCSD will have their second teleconference yet April 29th. She will be able to report at our next Tuesday conference call.

Ontology: See action point above.

8. AOB

• Peter asked for clarification of the version number of the lcsc work package that is out for comments - Tim confirmed that 0.64 is the version.
• Concern was raised that to continue progress it is important to encourage Arofan and Gunther to join more lcsc calls if at all possible as they are involved in some critical areas. Tim agreed to approach them individually to see of this will be possible or not.
• All to campaign for more involvement particularly during our calls. It was suggested that some members of the lcsc sub-committee may not realise how much progress depends on fruitful conderence calls to keep the work flowing. Tim agreed to put together a short email reminder to go to the list. It is key that quorum should be regularly achieved as decisions cannot be formally made by the group if quorum is not reached.

9. Next meeting is same time on Tuesday 30 April, 14.00 hrs UTC.
For the second week concern was expressed that the change of time may be the reason for the reduced participation. It was agreed that this should be investigated asap.

Sue Probert
Senior Director, Document Standards
Commerce One
Tel: +44 1332 342080
email: sue.probert@commerceone.com