Re: [ubl-lcsc] UBL - comment

[Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au>]

Thanks Robert - your comment is acknowledged and will be incorporated into
our formal review. I hope you will be satisifed with our response.

Robert Shmit wrote:
> My comment about platform specific may have been a bit
> strong. I agree with Jon B's comment here and reflects
> the spirit of my concern. Just use XML.
> Robert
>
>
> --- Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au> wrote:
> > Can I just jump in with a procedural comment.
> >
> > I understood we had agreed to collate all comments
> > and have the 
> > QA/editing team assemble them into topics that we
> > would address after 
> > the close of the period.
> >
> > Are we jumping in to publicly debate each comment as
> > it comes up?  This 
> > is why we didn't ask for comments to go to the
> > comment list. I would 
> > suggest we hold off publishing comments until we are
> > ready to deal with 
> > them collectively.  In the meantime, let the
> > QA/Editing team deal with 
> > them and seek further clarification, etc if
> > necessary.
> >
> > PS
> > Robert, you are probably not aware of how ironic
> > your comment was - 
> > hence our urge to share it!
> >
> > Jon Bosak wrote:
> >
> > > Robert Shmit's point -- that we should be using
> > >     
> > standard formats
> > > for stylesheets and other documentation -- is well
> > >     
> > taken.  When we
> > > began the UBL effort there were no such standards,
> > >     
> > but with the
> > > creation of openoffice -- a complete, free,
> > >     
> > open-source office
> > > productivity suite that saves everything as XML --
> > >     
> > and the
> > > contribution of the openoffice XML formats to
> > >     
> > OASIS, there's
> > > really no reason for continuing this practice.
> > >
> > > It's true, as Ken points out, that openoffice can
> > >     
> > open all the
> > > .xls files without complaint, but that doesn't
> > >     
> > change the fact
> > > that we're publishing an important part of our
> > >     
> > specifications
> > > using a proprietary data format.  As long as we
> > >     
> > persist in this
> > > practice, we will be forever bound to make the open
> > >     
> > source suite
> > > implement the proprietary format.  Also, the fact
> > >     
> > that the
> > > openoffice format is XML should make it easier (in
> > >     
> > principle) to
> > > maintain the perl script used to generate the xsd.
> > >
> > > The OASIS eGov technical committee set the example
> > >     
> > I think we
> > > should be following at its first meeting in
> > >     
> > Baltimore last month
> > > when it decided that it would use only OASIS
> > >     
> > formats for its
> > > papers and specifications.  I think that we should
> > >     
> > adopt the same
> > > policy.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that the 0p70 review cycle is the
> > >     
> > perfect
> > > opportunity to get all of our formats over to
> > >     
> > openoffice before we
> > > have to publish the next big release in May.  We
> > >     
> > have to figure
> > > out how to publish UBL Part 2 as a single document
> > >     
> > in this span
> > > anyway, so we might as well make the changeover at
> > >     
> > the same time.
> > > Let's talk about this some more when we meet in
> > >     
> > Denver Monday.
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >   Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:29:10 -0500
> > >   From: "G. Ken Holman"
> > >     
> > <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
> > >   At 2003-01-28 09:13 -0800, Bill Meadows wrote:
> > >   >Content-type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > >   >Content-MD5: 2PPxAHIjM3zajJYVUbAwbw==
> > >   >
> > >   >  I never thought I'd be accused of this...
> > >
> > >   :{)}
> > >
> > >   Not sure what he is complaining about:
> > >
> > >   (1) - Open Office seems to open all .xls files
> > >     
> > without complaint
> > >   (2) - the schemas, instances and stylesheets are
> > >     
> > platform independent
> > >   (3) - the "ubl.bat" file (not that he needs to
> > >     
> > run it to use the library) 
> > >   contains only one active line which is a Perl
> > >     
> > invocation, so could be 
> > >   considered documentation rather than mandatory
> > >     
> > execution
> > >   (4) - my stylesheet rebuilding processes (linked
> > >     
> > from the deliverable) are 
> > >   all in Python
> > >
> > >   I don't see anything jump out at me as platform
> > >     
> > specific to warrant his 
> > >   comment.
> > >
> > >   ....................... Ken
> > >
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> > >
> > >     
> > -- 
> > regards
> > tim mcgrath
> > fremantle  western australia 6160
> > phone: +618 93352228  fax: +618 93352142 
> >
> >
> >
> >   
>
>
> =====
> Robert Shmit
> Shmit Technologies LLC.
>
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tim mcgrath
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