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Subject: [ubl-lsc] Minutes of UBL Liaison SC meeting 2002.06.14
The UBL Liaison SC met by phone Friday 14 June 2002. Present Jon Bosak (chair) Garret Minakawa (invited observer) Sue Probert (UN/EDIFACT) Ray Seddigh (XBRL) Lisa Seaburg (editor, UBL LC SC) Bill French (EIDX) (Regrets: Richard Mader) We fell just short of a quorum today (we got four voting members out of eight) and will therefore have to finish up formal business through email. See related message for resolutions to be adopted. 1. Calendar (http://oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/lsc/calendar.htm) X12 meeting 6-11 October in Miami (was a week earlier) Action: noted. XML Web Services One 26-30 August in Boston Action: Check with Eve Maler to see whether she could cover this. XML World 2002 23-25 September in New Orleans Action: Check with Bob Glushko. The latest UBL presentation is now on the UBL site at http://oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/200206/nyc/ubl.ppt 2. UBL meeting schedule We arrived at (informal) agreement on the following schedule: UBL meeting 1-4 October 2002 in Burlington, Massachusetts (about 15 miles north of Boston) -- running Tuesday through Friday to optimize travel for people attending X12 the following week in Miami; objective: process feedback from LC review cycle starting in August UBL meeting 18-21 November 2002 in Menlo Park, California -- running Monday through Thursday per our established preferences; objective: prepare major release of library and basic documents by our target date Joint X12/UBL meeting 3-7 February 2003 in Denver; objective: get X12 response to the library and documents European meeting in late spring TBD depending on CEFACT schedule See related message for the email vote to ratify these decisions. 3. LSC meeting schedule I would like to move the call scheduled for 19 July to 12 July. The members present approved this; see related message for the email vote to ratify this decision. If this change is approved, our schedule for the rest of the year will stand as follows: Fri 12 Jul 2002 Fri 02 Aug 2002 Fri 16 Aug 2002 Fri 30 Aug 2002 (Skip 13 Sep: CEFACT Forum in Geneva) Fri 27 Sep 2002 Fri 11 Oct 2002 Fri 25 Oct 2002 Fri 08 Nov 2002 Fri 22 Nov 2002 (Skip 12/6: MoU/MG meeting in Paris) Fri 20 Dec 2002 Dial-in information: U.S.: 888 422 7105 International: 608 250 9675 Participant code: 448 342 Note that the dates in September and November will have to be moved around if we adopt the proposed UBL meeting schedule; we can deal with this next time. 3a. Next review cycle (added item) We discussed the fact that we already have Rev 2 of NDR but will not have Rev 2 of the Library for a while yet. Is this a problem? Points made during the discussion: - It's more important to keep NDR flowing into LC than keeping external reviews in sync - The priority is to make sure that the next LC release incorporates the latest NDR guidelines - Most of the groups represented in the LSC do not have a subcommittee that maps directly to NDR (X12 being the notable exception, but we don't have information on IXRetail or RosettaNet) - We think it's possible that we can get a response to a general call for comments on NDR from EIDX and EDIFACT; so probably the best thing would be a general announcement in each of the groups with a request to send comments to the NDR SC - We need to be clearer with external reviewers about the relationship between the two packages - We need to state clearly to external reviewers what they will gain from NDR and why they should be paying attention to it; this depends on what stage they are at in their own XML design work and the extent to which they intend to use the UBL library - We've been assuming that use of the UBL NDR will help promote future convergence with UBL; we need to know whether this is actually true - Some parts of NDR will be more relevant to liaison groups than other parts; we need the NDR SC to identify these 4. Interoperability (Bill French): put on agenda for next meeting 5. Miscellaneous: put on agenda for next meeting - Thought for OAG collaboration - Idea of outsourcing domain work to verticals (then through us as way of getting general review) Jon Bosak Chair, UBL LSC
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