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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 5 December 2001 UBL NDR meeting
NDR SC portal: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/
PLEASE NOTE: The group agreed that we WILL meet during the following two
weeks, starting one hour later than our normal time and meeting for only an
hour each time. We will focus on tag structures on December 12 and
extension methodology on December 19. Everyone PLEASE use email to send
your comments and the results of your action items -- we need your brain cells!
1. Roll call (quorum is 9)
Bill Burcham YES (x:10)
Doug Bunting YES (x:25)
Dave Carlson YES
Mavis Cournane YES (y:00)
Mark Crawford YES
John Dumay
Matt Gertner YES
Jack Gager
Arofan Gregory YES (x:10)
Eduardo Gutentag YES (x:16; gave us quorum)
Eve Maler YES
Dale McKay YES
Sue Probert
Marion Royal
Gunther Stuhec YES
Mike Rawlins YES (x:45)
Maryann Richards yes (non-voting)
Bob Glushko yes (non-voting)
Quorum not achieved as of x:06. We proceeded informally until x:16.
2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meeting:
28 November 2001 meeting:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200111/msg00110.html
Accepted.
3. Adoption of agenda
Adopted as is.
4. Action item review
ACTION: Eve to write a section for the NDR document documenting the
choice of schema language, and a position paper for the archives.
Continued.
ACTION: Arofan to create a new use case for instance constraint
checking.
Continued.
ACTION: Mark to revise the NDR document to reflect editorial
directions by next meeting, if possible.
DONE.
ACTION: Arofan/Sue/Lisa to provide the xCBL naming guidelines (and
all the other xCBL guidelines!).
Continued.
ACTION: Mark to update naming position paper with our suggestions
(including email suggestions).
Has a dependency on Arofan providing examples and UDEF information.
Continued.
ACTION: Mark to take a look at the original XML 1.0 design principles
to see if it's useful to add any of them to our document.
DONE (was put in the NDR document as a placeholder).
ACTION: Arofan to send a pointer to the draft ebtWG specification that
has a process diagram that will be helpful for figuring out use case
actors.
DONE. The version that's on the NDR portal, is slightly out of date
but its narrative about actors will still be useful.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/input/Core-Components-Technical-Specification-Ver-1PT6.doc
ACTION: Sue and Maryann to do some use case brainstorming offline.
Continued.
ACTION: Dale and Sue to work up tag structure examples and examine
them in light of the two "PatientParty" circumstances listed in
the November 28 minutes. Other interested parties are Mark, Arofan,
Eduardo. Due by December 5.
Continued.
ACTION: Mark to check with Mike on what the purpose of Section 5.4 is,
and follow up with editorial changes as necessary.
Continued.
ACTION: Mark to insert into the NDR document links to the existing
position papers, with notes about their being extremely non-settled
and non-normative.
Continued.
New action items appear below as well.
5. Current position paper champions, status, and priorities
Mark:
- Markup naming (A-priority)
- Design principles
- Relationship between UBL and UN/CEFACT constructs
Eve:
- Choice of schema language (A-priority)
Doug:
- TPA
Arofan:
- Customization (A-priority)
Bill:
- Modularization/namespaces/versioning
Gunther:
- Elements vs. attributes
- NEW: Document size and performance considerations (Section 6.1)
Dave:
- Use cases (with Maryann) (A-priority)
- Local vs. global elements
Mike:
- Code (enumerated) lists
6. XML 2001 messages to give Jon
We agreed to pass along the following messages:
- Review the charter for our SC and provide NDR portal URL
discuss relationship among the "technical" subcommittees in
particular
. Names of the technical SCs
. Charter text for the technical SCs
. URL for NDR portal
- Review our use cases (if we feel they're developed enough by then)
. Working methodology is to develop rules in response to use cases
. These distinguish UBL project from other XSD-using projects
. Quick list of use cases we're working on
- Give an idea of the breadth we're trying to cover in NDR
. Markup naming
. Modularity, namespaces, versioning
. Customization (additive/subtractive)
. Enumerated lists
. Elements vs. attributes
. Local vs. global elements
. Tip of the iceberg -- just the highest priority -- see draft outline
- Structured customization methodology
. Context = business situation
. Need context-dependent changes in business document structure
. Give an example (add GPS field to address in automotive sector)
. We will provide a machine-readable means for specifying these changes
- Talk about the validator support issue and our software test list
. Chose XSD for development, but have concerns (keep looking at
RELAX NG out of the corner of our eye)
. First and foremost -- no interoperability between validators!
. Concerns about restriction support
. Concerns about namespace support
ACTION: Eve to send final notes to Jon and the SC by Thursday.
7. Finish going through the NDR document outline and assign more champions
Mark and Eve took notes on all changes agreed to by the SC.
ACTION: Everyone to review the NDR document and send all comments to
Mark by Friday COB.
ACTION: Mark to turn around a new draft by early next week.
NEW TERM:
Assembly: Using parts of the library of reusable UBL components to
create a new kind of business document type.
8. Legal issues (following on to Arofan's posting)
9. Use case review (Maryann Richards)
10. Tag structure position
11. Customization position
All deferred.
12. Next steps
Meeting schedule: we will meet during the next two weeks, at noon-1pm
ET instead of 11am-1pm ET.
- December 12: Tag structure
- December 19: Extension
13. Adjourn
Adjourned at z:08.
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Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190
Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center eve.maler @ sun.com
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