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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 3 April 2002 UBL NDR SC meeting
1. Roll call (quorum is 9) Bill Burcham YES Mavis Cournane Mark Crawford YES Fabrice Desré John Dumay Matt Gertner YES Arofan Gregory YES Phil Griffin Eduardo Gutentag YES Eve Maler YES Dale McKay Joe Moeller Sue Probert YES Ron Schuldt YES Lisa Seaburg Gunther Stuhec YES Paul Thorpe YES Quorum not reached; proceeded informally. 2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meetings 27 February 2002 telecon: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200202/msg00091.html 6 March 2002 telecon: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200203/msg00004.html 13 March 2002 telecon: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200203/msg00014.html 18-22 March 2002 F2F meeting: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200203/msg00028.html All deferred. 3. Adoption of agenda Moved the coordination with CM SC up in the agenda because Matt has to leave early. Added discussion of comments on the CC Technical Specification re: clarifying "properties" in the CC meta-model. 4. Action items and prioritizing our next chunk of work ACTION: Mavis to revise the tag structure paper with our latest thoughts on RTs vs. CCTs and how schemas should define types for them. (A priority) ACTION: Eve to revise the code list position paper to include discussion of the new idea (moving code list identification to a namespaced element containing a code from a single list) and the other ideas proposed by EWG attendees. (A priority) ACTION: Bill to update the role model paper to record the latest decisions. (C priority) ACTION: Eduardo to revise Arofan's original extension paper to include all the latest CM information, and to communicate the results of this F2F meeting to Matt. (This is a CM SC item; Matt has been apprised of the Barcelona results.) ACTION: Arofan to start a position paper about containership. (B priority) ACTION: Gunther to provide a position paper recommending how to handle dates and times. (C priority) Administrative concerns: - How to work issues with the CM SC? An example of an issue that affects both groups is when/how to set types final and elements blocked. We agreed that joint meetings make sense. For now, we should try to spend the first hour of every other NDR SC telecon in a joint NDR/CM SC telecon. We'll start next week. Eve will send the broad agenda out to both groups, and Matt will follow up with a detailed agenda. - NDR document production: How should we approach this? We have the following weeks until the next F2F meeting: April 3 (today), 10, 17, 24 May 1, 8, 15, 22, 29 June 5 (the F2F meeting itself, if all goes according to plan) We discussed the idea of "growing" the tag structure paper into the NDR document, and also how to handle position papers that are in flux while trying to incorporate them into the main document. Mark is willing to have co-editors helping him; we hope Mavis is on board, and Arofan has offered too. New ACTION: Eve to discuss with Mavis the idea of turning the tag structure paper into the next draft of the NDR document. (A priority) Our work in the next two months (A=high, B=medium, C=low): A External recommendations for changes to CCTS Comments are due May 4 and must be in the prescribed format. New ACTION: Bill to put together draft recommendations on the CCTS on the issue of "properties". New ACTION: Eve to discuss with Mavis whether she's willing to contribute additional recommendations on the CCTS (related to the RT/CCT confusion) to the external recommendations. (A priority) New ACTION: Arofan to propose some alternate definitions for RTs and CCTs and send them to the NDR list. (A priority -- by today if possible) A Modnamver holes and other modularity comments on LC SC schema code Things we need to work on here: versioning, whether to explicitly account for an RT/CCT module, and how many root schemas we need. Note that the namespace and versioning issues may affect or be affected by the context methodology work. New ACTION: Everyone to review the modnamver paper, the examples, and the 0.64 schema distribution. (A priority) A Code lists (Eve to revise) C Dates and times (new Gunther paper) A NDR document production B Holes in tag structure (Mavis to revise) B Containership (new Arofan paper) We have already given the LC SC some comments on this, so we think the paper will just be a nice summary of what we're already telling them (and what we will continue to tell them in reactive, comment-submitting mode). B Fixed vs. varying types (Matt paper) New ACTION: Everyone to read Matt's types paper by next week and see if we want to prioritize it higher. (A priority) A Review the purchase order schema design 5. Can we tackle any of these subjects today? Apparently not. :-) 6. Adjourn Adjourned y:10. -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center eve.maler @ sun.com
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