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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 3 July 2002 UBL NDR SC meeting
Minutes for 3 July 2002 UBL NDR SC meeting (Quorum is 8)
1. Roll Call
* Bill Burcham YES
* Mavis Cournane YES
* Mark Crawford YES
* Fabrice Desré AWOL
* Matt Gertner AWOL
* Arofan Gregory REGRETS
* Jessica Glace YES
* Michael Grimley REGRETS
* Eduardo Gutentag REGRETS
* Eve Maler REGRETS
* Sue Probert YES (left at y35)
* Lisa Seaburg YES
* Gunther Stuhec YES
* Paul Thorpe AWOL
Quorum not reached. We proceeded informally.
2. Minutes
Deferred - no quorum
3. Agenda - Accepted
4. Action item review
Mavis -
a. Gunther's script - In progress. should be finished this week.
b. Add Type/ContentType info to NDR - Waiting on Gunther for additional info
c. Update issue spreadsheet - Bobs comments included
Eve - Not on call - no updates beyond Agenda.
a. Extract code list chapter and finish it.
b. Write a code list FAQ.
c. Reorg portal to make new archive and add info on future work. DONE
d. Approach Tim and Jon on SWAT team idea. IN PROGRESS
e. Add issues spreadsheet template to the portal. DONE
f. Remind Mark about chairing July 3. DONE
g. Send early agenda for July 3. DONE
Gunther:
a. Write content referencing paper. IN PROGRESS
b. Talk to Mike Adcock about putting together a paper on Identifiers as Properties. DONE
Bill:
a. Update modnamver. IN PROGRESS - Reviewing Concepts. Will get with Eve to discuss way forward. Lisa to provide presentation from other group to help with way forward. Lisa will work with Bill outside of calls to make progress.
b. Revise role model paper? Defer work on this until next week for larger group discussion on need for paper.
Lisa:
a. Send out a list of the current LC SC spreadsheet column headers. DONE
b. With Arofan, get NDR document section written on embedded documentation. Lisa has provided draft to Arofan, Arofan is working paper.
5. Schedule planning
July 10:
- Eduardo, Sue and Mavis send regrets
- Topics: Embedded Documentation, Code Lists, Nested Supplementary Components
July 17:
- Eduardo sends regrets
- Topics: Review NDR document
July 24:
- Mark, Jessica send regrets
- Topics: ?
July 31:
- Mark sends regrets
- Topics: Review NDR document
...
September 18:
- Topics: Approve documents for review distribution #3
September 25:
- No meeting; work on other UBL tasks instead
October 1-4:
- F2F #5 in Burlington, MA, USA
A NDR document improvements (review every two weeks)
A+ Embedded documentation DONE EXCEPT FOR DOCUMENTING IT
A Code lists IN PROGRESS
A Dates and times IN PROGRESS
A Nested supplementary components
A Identifier references and whether to pass content by reference
A- Local vs. global elements
B+ Containership
B Updating guiding principles
B Modnamver URN/schema location
B Referencing of content, e.g. for attachments
C Facets
C Wildcards/open content
C Nillability
C Aggregation of similar information for XPath V1.0 addressing
6. Brief reports from other SCs
Lisa: Library content has a couple of papers. 1) LC methodology that the NDR group needs to review. 2) Code and Identifier paper. Some differences between two subcommittees and these need to be harmonized. Sue suggests maybe including some of the LC paper into the NDR document. Mavis thinks Eve's is more technical and what audience wants. Perhaps we need to add more content to Eve's examples. Suggest LC formally submit to Eve as owner of Code List paper for consideration on inclusion.
Mark: CSC meeting is on 15 July. Everyone think of inputs to provide to Eve by next week.
7. Date/time paper
Gunter lead discussion on date/time paper.
Duration -
Looking for additional use cases for need of additional built in types beyond Date, Time, and DateTime. Group agrees with basic premise and recommendations for additional RT for duration (Option 3).
Period -
General agreement of group to use option 3 as best approach.
Periodicity/Recurrent
A most complex issue. Gunther is leaning towards option 3. The group determined that there is a need for better examples to allow the group to more fully understand and make a decision. Option 3 will require additional Representation Terms be added to the CCTS to maintain conformance.
8. NDR document walk-through and review
Mavis led discussion.
Removed Eve's code list paper and added as appendix. Asked question - Do we want a couple of paragraphs to discuss eve's paper in body of text. Group thinks this is good idea. Added soft headings, Section 7 general message rules, General UBL guiding principles. Mavis needs Arofan's, Lisa's, Bill's and Gunter's papers finalized and submitted before document will change much.
9. Adjourn at y:37.
Mark
Mark Crawford
Research Fellow - LMI XML Lead
Vice Chair - OASIS UBL TC
Editor - UN/CEFACT Core Components
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