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Subject: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 17th of september


 Dear all

As acting chair I would like call in for a PSC meeting Monday the 17th of
september 9.30-10.30 CET
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Agenda:

1) Situation after Mark, election of new Chair, etc.
2) Answer to the Tax XML group
3) Preparation for the UBL meeting in Stokholm
4) Status of the issuelist
5) Meeting schedule
6) Any ofther business

Kind regards

Peter

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au] 
Sendt: 7. september 2007 04:24
Til: Peter Borresen
Cc: Helle Schade-Sørensen
Emne: Re: SV: SV: SV: SV: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 4th
June

Do you mind taking the role of 'acting chair' and send out the agenda?

Peter Borresen wrote:
> Ok, I will give it 3 hours Tuesday.
>
> /Peter
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
> Sendt: 6. september 2007 13:38
> Til: Peter Borresen
> Cc: Helle Schade-Sørensen
> Emne: Re: SV: SV: SV: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 
> 4th June
>
> OK, but we are requested to respond by the 14th (next friday).  I can 
> make any other day after monday.
>
> Peter Borresen wrote:
>   
>> Hi Tim
>>
>> A have only skimemd it and made the angry mail. September is a very 
>> busy for us. Could we call in for a PSC meeting next week? I plan to 
>> go to Marks funeral Monday, so Monday will be a bad day.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
>> Sendt: 6. september 2007 01:43
>> Til: Peter Borresen
>> Cc: Helle Schade-Sørensen
>> Emne: Re: SV: SV: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 4th 
>> June
>>
>> did anyone get chance to look at this report and make comments?
>>
>> Peter Borresen wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi Tim
>>>
>>> I know it is never wise to be angry in a mail (as Helle told me), 
>>> but I was really pissed me off that we now are going to do 
>>> convergenge with an OASIS group. If you ask me is the best solution 
>>> that they do a RFM (Read the Fucking Manual) on UBL instead of that 
>>> we should tell them what is wrong. We are now spending our efforts 
>>> in involving european contries in UBL (which is going quite all 
>>> right, by the way
>>> (14 countries and six compagnies (including
>>> IBM)) and in CIP project.
>>>
>>> Another problem with providing comments to the documents is that it 
>>> gives them a kind of endorsement for the thing we havn't comment on.
>>>
>>> A third thing that made me angry was, what has Sylvia been doing? 
>>> She was supposed to be our liaisson, so why couldn't she tell them 
>>> what to be
>>>     
>>>       
>> done.
>>   
>>     
>>> Anyway, I have send CC to Helle, so we can consider whether anyone 
>>> in the project (or in the department) can find time for applying
comments.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>> Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
>>> Sendt: 28. august 2007 06:00
>>> Til: Peter Borresen
>>> Emne: Re: SV: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 4th June
>>>
>>> You will  see from my response that we have discussed this on the 
>>> UBL TC call.  While I understand your concersn about what this TC is 
>>> doing we do need to engage them.
>>>
>>> The best way to do this is to comment on their document using a gap
>>>     
>>>       
>> analysis.
>>   
>>     
>>> It is both parties interest that we conclude the UBL and Tax XML are 
>>> in agreement asto the information requirements for tax purposes.  I 
>>> dont really care about their process models, etc.
>>>
>>> The problem we have in UBL is that the person best suited to do this
>>> (Mark) is not up to it at the moment.  Do you have anyone in your 
>>> team who could take this on?
>>>
>>> Peter Borresen wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Pim
>>>>  
>>>> I am supprised that a OASIS group is not using the work of an other 
>>>> OASIS group. The procurement proces has already been published as a 
>>>> OASIS specification, see 
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/,
>>>> so why are the Tax XML TC trying to redo this work? I would like to 
>>>> stress that all the process and content in the TAX XML 
>>>> sprecifications are aligned with the UBL specification. In cases 
>>>> where documents or other information elements are missing this 
>>>> could be submitted to the UBL TC.
>>>>  
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>  
>>>> Peter L. Borresen
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> -
>>>> -
>>>> --
>>>> *Fra:* Pim van der Eijk [mailto:pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org]
>>>> *Sendt:* 27. august 2007 15:47
>>>> *Til:* 'Mark Leitch'
>>>> *Cc:* 'Andy Greener'; 'Burg, HJM ((Harm Jan)) van ((INNOVATIE))'; 
>>>> 'Carol Cosgrove-Sacks'; Helle Schade-Sørensen; Martin Forsberg; 
>>>> Oriol Bausà; tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au; amschoka@comcast.net; 
>>>> swebb@gefeg.com; Peter Borresen; Jon Bosak
>>>> *Emne:* RE: UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 4th June
>>>>
>>>> Hello Mark and others,
>>>>  
>>>> Andy Greener sent me the attached draft document for an indirect 
>>>> tax reference model, which the Tax XML TC has been working on for 
>>>> some time, and which they would like to discuss with you.  If I 
>>>> understand correctly, the relation between this model and UBL is:
>>>> -  The UBL library has information elements for tax-related 
>>>> information. These elements could be compared to the class models 
>>>> described in chapter 6 of the attached document.
>>>> -  UBL defines business documents such as Order and Invoice that 
>>>> use these information elements. These definitions could be compared 
>>>> with the models in section 5.1.
>>>> -  The document defines (in chapter 5.2) a number of business 
>>>> documents that are not part of the UBL 2.0 document set.  Perhaps a 
>>>> future version of UBL could add definitions for these additional 
>>>> business documents, using this document as input.
>>>>  
>>>> The Tax XML TC has a face to face meeting on 19th of September, so 
>>>> Andy would like to receive your feedback by 14th of September.  Do 
>>>> you have time to review the document and provide feedback to Andy 
>>>> within this time frame? Would it be useful to have a conference 
>>>> call in the week of September 10 to discuss this?
>>>>  
>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>>>  
>>>> Pim
>>>>  
>>>> N.B. I did not send this message to the public UBL PSC list but to 
>>>> current members as I do not know what the status of this version of 
>>>> the document is.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> -
>>>> -
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* Mark Leitch [mailto:ml@tritorr.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 31 May 2007 18:27
>>>> *To:* ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>> *Cc:* Burg, HJM ((Harm Jan)) van ((INNOVATIE)); Pim van der Eijk; 
>>>> Carol Cosgrove-Sacks; Helle Schade-Sørensen
>>>> *Subject:* UBL Procurement SubCommittee Telecon - Monday 4th June
>>>>
>>>> I propose that we have a meeting on Monday morning to discuss 
>>>> current
>>>> issues:
>>>> 1) where we are with NES
>>>> 2) where we are with the CEFACT convergence project
>>>> 3) AOB on UBL 2.0
>>>>
>>>> I have also invited Harm, Pim and Carol to discuss how we can more 
>>>> closely liaise with TaxXML
>>>>
>>>> As usual, the meeting will be at 08:00 GMT (09:00 BST / 10:00 CEST 
>>>> / 16:00 WST).
>>>>
>>>> The number is +18655246352 with entry code 5705229
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, M
>>>>
>>>> Mark Leitch
>>>> Director - Tritorr Ltd
>>>> tel.: +44 1932 821112
>>>> cell.: +44 7881 822999
>>>> mail: ml@tritorr.com <mailto:ml@tritorr.com>
>>>> skype: wmarkle
>>>> site: www.tritorr.com <http://www.tritorr.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> regards
>>> tim mcgrath
>>> phone: +618 93352228  
>>> postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
>>> web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> --
>> regards
>> tim mcgrath
>> phone: +618 93352228  
>> postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
>> web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> --
> regards
> tim mcgrath
> phone: +618 93352228  
> postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
> web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath
>
>
>
>   

--
regards
tim mcgrath
phone: +618 93352228  
postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
web: http://www.portcomm.com.au/tmcgrath



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