Re: [ubl-tsc] Question about consignments and shipments

[Tim McGrath <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com>]

yes, if you look at the 'central' consignment on slide 5 (the 
consolidated one between the two forwarders) it needs to describe the 
two shipments (Supplier A to Buyer A and Supplier B to Buyer B) it is 
covering.

a forwarder consolidates consignments and their associated shipment 
details into one single consignment.  the receiving forwarder needs to 
de-consolidate so they have to know how to split them up again.

there will be a shipment from Forwarder A to Forwarder B (a contract to 
carry) but that is not shown on the diagrams

On 4/07/12 11:56 PM, Jon Bosak wrote:
> The slides help a lot -- thanks.  Perhaps we can put some version of
> this in the hubdoc?
>
> I'm still wondering about "consolidated shipment" (Consignment.
> Consolidated_ Shipment. Shipment). Is this one of the shipments shown in
> slide 5, or is this something else that combines a set of shipment
> pieces into a synthetic shipment for some legal purpose?
>
> Jon
>
> Tim McGrath wrote:
> > here is my slides describing the 'split' and 'consolidation' options 
> > for shipments and consignments.  we struggled a long time on these 
> > definitions and actually got them approved by experts so we have to 
> > be careful changing them.
> >
> >
> > On 4/07/12 5:03 AM, Jon Bosak wrote:
> > > Hello TSC,
> > >
> > > I'm in the process of reviewing the definitions in the common library
> > > and am now considering the ABIE "Consignment" (Consignment. 
> > > Details).  I
> > > note that a consignment (row 284) can contain multiple shipments (under
> > > the name "Consignment. Consolidated_ Shipment. Shipment", row 344), but
> > > I also note that every shipment (row 1672) can contain multiple
> > > consignments (under the name Shipment. Consignment, row 1694). This has
> > > something to do with the notion of consolidation, but I can't figure 
> > > out
> > > what.
> > >
> > > Are consignments collections of shipments, or are shipments collections
> > > of consignments?  And what does this have to do with consolidation?
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
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