Re: [ubl] Venue for UBL meeting 3-7 November 2003

["Peter P. Yim" <yimpp@cim-oem.com>]

Thanks, Jon.  I prefer Menlo Park.

One additional problem with San Francisco is that, for those of us 
(locals, especially) who plan to drive, parking is a hassle in the 
City (and could be costly too!)

-ppy
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jon.bosak@sun.com wrote Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:24:58 -0700 (PDT):

> UBL members,
> 
> Having agreed to hold our next UBL TC meeting 3-7 November 2003 in
> the San Francisco bay area, we must now decide the venue.  We have
> two choices: Sun's campus in Menlo Park (where we have met several
> times before), or Sun's drop-in center in downtown San Francisco.
> Below I've listed what appear to me to be the salient
> considerations.  Please reply to this message no later than COB
> Monday 18 August indicating your preference.
> 
> Jon
> 
> ==================================================================
> 
> Menlo Park advantages:
> 
>  - Most of us know where it is by now
> 
>  - The meeting rooms are quite good
> 
>  - There is an excellent cafeteria on campus
> 
> Menlo Park disadvantages:
> 
>  - The only available hotels are in Palo Alto, several miles away
> 
>  - Security is a hassle
> 
>  - The meeting rooms may not be located very close to each other
> 
> San Francisco advantages:
> 
>  - The office is in downtown San Francisco, two blocks from the
>    Moscone Center and the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
> 
>  - There are many excellent hotels and restaurants within walking
>    distance of the site
> 
>  - There is a BART (subway) station just three blocks away, which
>    means that you can easily get to the meeting from many places
>    in the bay area without driving
> 
>  - BART now runs directly to San Francisco airport, so if you got
>    a hotel room near a BART station, you could in theory go the
>    whole week without renting a car
> 
>  - The meeting rooms are quite near one another
> 
>  - Bob Glushko has offered to host a day in the wine country on
>    the Sunday preceding or the Saturday following the meeting,
>    using his home in St. Helena as the base; San Francisco is an
>    hour closer to St. Helena than Menlo Park is (about 1.5 hours
>    vs. 2.5 hours)
> 
> San Francisco disadvantages:
> 
>  - The drop-in center is on the fourth floor of the building
> 
>  - The meeting rooms have conference phones and white boards, but
>    the rooms themselves are not as nice; in particular, the
>    acoustics are not as good (the rooms have concrete floors)
> 
>  - There are no dining facilities on site, though there is a small
>    break area with coffee, hot water, tea, microwave, and
>    refrigerator just a few feet from the meeting rooms; so you
>    will have to go downstairs and walk a block or two for lunch
>    (on the other hand, this also means that you're only a block or
>    two from a bar after the meeting)
> 
>  - The venue is an hour away from Silicon Valley, so if you're
>    trying to double up on business in the Valley, it's going to be
>    less convenient (though with the recently completed
>    BART-CalTrain link in Millbrae, it's a lot better than it used
>    to be; you can now go directly to downtown Sunnyvale, Mountain
>    View, Santa Clara, and San Jose by train)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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