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Subject: Re: [ubl] Specialised DataTypes Schema Module


Mark,

Of course your opinion counts.  Your position on substitution
groups was a major consideration in the outcome of yesterday's
code list decision even though you could not attend that call.

I'm very sorry about the scheduling problem.  We all have
scheduling problems, and I sympathize.  But without these
joint calls we cannot meet our deadlines.  Meeting as separate
subcommittees was simply not getting the job done.

Anne will be posting the minutes from this morning's call.  Please
review those and respond by mail if you disagree with any of the
decisions now being made.  We will take those comments into
account in what I hope will be the final installment of this
series of meetings on Friday.

Jon

   Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:55:41 -0500
   From: "CRAWFORD, Mark" <MCRAWFORD@lmi.org>

   e   This is where the decisions are actually being
   made, and as I've indicated in recent messages, people who don't
   participate in these joint calls are simply not going to count in
   arriving at a solution.

   Its nice to know that after two plus years of working collaboratively with the group that was responsible for developing a modularity solution, making the commitment to attend every single F2F, and devoting significant resources, that I simply don't count because I am in a mandatory training session and can't join a coordination call that has not heretofor been billed as a formal decision making meeting of the TC as a whole.

   Mark Crawford
   Research Fellow - LMI XML Lead
   W3C Advisory Committee, OASIS, RosettaNet Representative
   Vice Chair - OASIS UBL TC & Chair Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee
   Chair - UN/CEFACT XML Syntax Working Group
   Editor - UN/CEFACT Core Components
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   -----Original Message-----
   From: jon.bosak@sun.com <jon.bosak@sun.com>
   To: ubl@lists.oasis-open.org <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
   Sent: Wed Mar 17 10:58:38 2004
   Subject: Re: [ubl] Specialised DataTypes Schema Module

   [GrimleyMJ@Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil:]

   | We cannot constantly reconsider (or simply ignore) past decisions
   | if we expect to make any progress here.

   Unfortunately we are not talking in this case about decisions that
   were made in a quorate group.  We have nonquorate groups meeting
   in isolation and arriving at separate solutions.  This includes
   the committee of the whole that met in Washington.

   The coordination calls (such as the one this morning that is
   working out a structure for the schema modules as I write this)
   are the only mechanism we have for arriving at a consensus across
   subcommittees.  This is where the decisions are actually being
   made, and as I've indicated in recent messages, people who don't
   participate in these joint calls are simply not going to count in
   arriving at a solution.

   Jon

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