Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 15 July 2004

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MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
THURSDAY 15 JULY 2004

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ATTENDANCE
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   Jon Bosak
   Tim McGrath
   Stephen Green
   Patrick Yee

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STANDING ITEMS
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{Standing_Agenda:6}  Calendar review
                     Check on dates for eAC meeting in October and
                     "East Asia Initiative Meeting, Seoul"

   PY: These are two distinct meetings.

   TM: Will be meeting with Hisano-san next week and will get
   agenda for eAC meeting.

{Standing_Agenda:7}  Event reports

   No calendar events this week.

   TM/SG: Interest appearing to grow in Europe (though nothing
   specific to report yet).

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ATLANTIC REVIEW
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Review minutes of the Atlantic TC call (see ubl mail list).

   TM/SG: We don't have a clear idea of how we're supposed to be
   operating with TBG17.  There appears to have been a review
   period, but the public doesn't seem to have been aware of it;
   we don't understand how this fits with the "open development
   process."  We're not sure that what we mean by CC is what TBG17
   means by CC.  We're not sure that TBG17 has clearly defined the
   level of abstraction of a CC.  Members of the eAC appear to be
   confused about this as well.  It's not clear how the UBL
   library can be aligned with the CC library as it appears to be
   developing.

   We note that our next TC meeting in Copenhagen immediately
   follows a TBG17 meeting in the same place.  We will have
   several TBG17 members in attendance at the TC meeting, so this
   is a good occasion to discuss these issues.

   JB: Will add alignment of the UBL library with TBG17 CCs to the
   agenda for Copenhagen.

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ISSUES LIST
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   Most of the Pacific call was spent reviewing the issues
   discussed in the Atlantic call.  We are now caught up with the
   Atlantic call, and all decisions have been logged in the
   revised issues list.  Some issues thought to need further
   discussion in email were successfully resolved during the call.

   JB: Will reorganize the issues list after entering results of
   this call.  [See message Saturday 17 July.]

   We note that some issues require changes BOTH to the
   spreadsheets AND the schemas.  We will have to track these
   especially carefully.  [They are marked in red in the 17 July
   version of the issues list.]

   We also note the need to be 100 percent complete in compiling
   the change log so that the translations don't get out of sync
   with the release.

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COML SUBMISSION
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   TM: Notes in passing that an analysis of the COML submission
   reduced the number of additions to the 1.0 library from about
   120 to about 40.  We need feedback on this from TBG5.



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WORK LIST ADDITIONS
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   No additional items at this time.